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Thoughts on yiff.party LtBarclay##FuufeZ 04/26/2019 (Fri) 17:28:25 Id:c82d4e No. 3311
So, I'm sure most of you are familiar, and this post -might- should have gone in gen, but I think I'll get the most replies here. We'll move it after awhile.

Yiff.party. Interesting site. Very much like what I tried to do with the array, a pretty nice archive. However, it's gotten a little bit too big for it's britches. After switching from just-furry to literally ANY patreon creator (music, writing, etc), the site is running into problems. Hosting so much content made their costs go up to $160/month, and the site itself has become bloated, being slow to load creator's pages, etc.

If you look at the board for yiff (https://yiff.party/bbs/list), you'll find the userbase is getting a little sick of the way the site is being run into the ground, constantly adding and hosting endless amounts of generic thots that the core userbase could give less than 2 shits about.

In addition, patreon creators are getting wise: some will continue to update the same post rather than make new ones so the importer doesn't work, others are simply posting on discord to avoid the importer entirely. Patreon itself seems to be constantly updating it's own code to stymie the importer as well.

Most pressingly, the admin seems to be running the site like I am bbw-chan: if they don't reach their donation goal, it's said the site will go down. Well, they've only got 4 days left and are ~$40 short.

To any of you that use the site, are there any creators you'd like to see archived in case the site does go down in may? Do you think the site should have stayed furry-only and kept it's userbase coherent and pleased? Any other thoughts on the situation?
Edited last time by admin on 04/26/2019 (Fri) 17:43:12.
>>36921
1. Any content that can be found elsewhere shouldn't be hosted on YP, they simply can't afford to host an archive of every cosplayer and vanilla hentai artist ever anymore. YP should either link to where to find the common-as-air content or embed it instead of hosting it.

2. I would be fine if they went back to being furry-only, I'm not sure if they *should* have stayed furry-only, but it definitely should have stayed art-only, once they started allowing cosplay stuff their hosting bill skyrocketed.

3. The ability to flag posts doesn't work and hasn't worked for months, yet the admin will neither remove the ability to flag posts nor will he fix the feature.
>>36921
im glad to see its dying, i've been only updating posts for a while and i will make sure to tell other creators to do the same thing, fuck pirates and fuck furries
Don't tempt me with a good time
>>36933
>fuck pirates and fuck furries
>>36935
>Don't tempt me with a good time
kek
>>36923
I agree, I don't really think furry-only was needed, but DEFINITELY it should've been art-only
their site usually goes down @ the end of the month when the donation goal isnt met. but it comes back up again the next day.
>>36956
I think the moment you let the furry in it's already the end
Always love when site owners have to beg for meager shit like a couple hundred dollars to run a site. Either that’s not the whole price, or they’re as much of a cheap bastard as everyone who uses that site. I regularly make $150ish in a day or two, I don’t understand why the owner has to beg for such a little amount of money unless he’s just a poor NEET. Wouldn’t even be surprised if the numbers were inflated and he pocketed some of that cash without telling anyone.
>>37047
Yeah because spending 5-10% of an average person's pre-tax income on maintaining a website is no big deal. Always love when guys demand that masturbation material be provided to them for free, then when it actually is free, get angry that there's a donation button.
>>37047
>t. based idiot who's delusional over how the world works
If it's so little money, then why not contribute? How can you even get entitled over something like that?
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Those that literally won't pay for porn drawn by artists that make it their living to draw porn are interfering in these artists livelihood. I know of one personally who quit patreon over discovering yiff party. If you're a degenerate who pirates premium porn you are hurting the artists who put in hundreds of hours in to become well established who work for possibly less than a factory job. FUCK YOU if you won't pay 10 fucking dollars and choose to pirate.
>>37129
Ever think that maybe shameful fat porn is something people want to avoid having a leakable paper trail of? Does your artist friend accept bitcoin?
>>37129
I’ll support and pirate whoever I damn well please.
>>37143
*support or pirate
>>37129
But if I am not going to spend money on product X, how is me getting product X for free somewhere else hurting the person selling the product?
Even if I didnt get it for free, I would not be giving them my money. The end result is the same for the person selling the product.

You make it sound like the job of creating this content is horrible. If someone chooses to do that to themselves why would I sympathize with them suffering? They should just do some work they hate less.
>>37155
>how is me getting [x] product for free somewhere else hurt the person selling the product?
Because you’re not buying anything from them therefore they aren’t making any money, duh.
>even if I didn’t get it for free I would not be giving them my money
I’m not sure how that would work considering a secondhand market doesn’t exist online - well for the context of media it doesn’t as far as I know.
>you make it sound like the job of creating this content is horrible
I wouldn’t say just for fetish stuff I would say in general it’s horrible, I remember chuggaconroy saying “YouTube doesn’t give sick days” and other youtubers have said that YouTube doesn’t give breaks the same can be said for any online content, they must keep making content to relevant so that they can continue to have an income. It’s worse for people who makes paid online content (like Patreon or any other distribution) pirates like you and me, we take what we want without giving anything back. I would say making content as a living is far from ideal.
Look I would have more sympathy for the patreon artists if they didn't keep their art indefinitely

But >>36921
does anyone have tubbytoon?
>>37174
I think you misunderstood that first one.

One pirated download =/= One lost sale, as a lot of pirates wouldn't have bought the product anyway.

More people think "Oh, this isn't on yiff? Okay then" than they do "Oh, this isn't on yiff? Better open my wallet."
>>37243
>One pirated download =/= One lost sale, as a lot of pirates wouldn't have bought the product anyway.
True a pirate may never intended to buy something to begin with so from their perspective there was no sale. The seller perspective is different, we the pirates are basically running into their store grabbing an item, running away with it, and sharing said item with other people. You tell me, did the seller made any money from that event? No, they did not, the seller has lost an item they can no longer sell.

It's hard to imagine the scenario applying to online, lets use c4s as an example. Yes even if a clip was shared it is still purchasable on c4s, as far as we're concerned it can be downloaded indefinitely therefore it cannot be stolen unlike in real life where an item is stolen it's gone for good. But here is where the problem for the online seller arise: if a clip is shared what is the point of anyone buying it when they can get it for free? You tell me, in that situation did the seller making any money?

>More people think "Oh, this isn't on yiff? Okay then" than they do "Oh, this isn't on yiff? Better open my wallet."
Personally, if it isn't on yiff I research if the artists' patreon if fair for people who subscribe and those who don't, and if the tiers are fair and affordable if so sure I'll subscribe, otherwise I'll sit and wait for someone to leak stuff.
>>37129
>If you're a degenerate who pirates premium porn you are hurting the artists who put in hundreds of hours in to become well established who work for possibly less than a factory job

If they work for less than a factory job they're not well established. Artists are like actors, a minority is successful and a majority starves. Playing the blame game is just rationalization for failure, it won't change pirates' habits and it won't bring more money into the creators' pockets. If you're not exceptionally talented and / or don't cater to a large enough audience and / or aren't good at PR you're most likely going to fail making a living as an artist, that's just the reality of the market. Keep it as a hobby and start working an office job.
>>36921
It's running on borrowed time at this point unless the creator can fix the auto-importer.
>>37373
Does anyone know if the code is available. I know it's a stretch but if the creator is busy. I'd love to look at it and maybe help out. Not a narc I swear.
>>37597
Email the admin at support@yiff.party

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