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Array support discussion LtBarclay 06/08/2017 (Thu) 09:23:56 No. 333
Regarding the new information posted here: https://bbw-chan.nl/arraysupport.html

Please discuss thoughts, concerns, etc.

Edit 6-13-2017: Miner support page and package has been updated. CPU Mining has been removed. Package now mines to a wallet address I use for mining with my own hardware, to prevent small transaction spam from what will almost certainly be a fairly small amount of users.

In addition, mining is now required to use the array. I know this is going to be contentious. In fact, I'm betting it's the death knell of the whole system. I simply don't think the 30+ constant users of the array will comply with it. We have about 2 and a half weeks to see if users can swallow actually having to contribute to get the array to tirelessly work for them.
I think that a good method to fund the array and the site would be crypto currency mining honestly. I think the main problem i see is that you need multiple people to constantly be running there gpu or cpu under load and even if its low intensity people with low end pc's wont be able to sustain mineing for long periods i suggest that the sight trys to save up as much money as possible and spend it on a ant miner or an ascii and mine etherium or monero i can profit a doller a day and im at 1 gh/s on my amd cards ill continue mineing for you guys for now but its not sutainable
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I'd like to know why you're using a host that wants only cryptocurrency? Like, you'd probably be getting more donations if you could just accept real money.
>>333
Completely agree, if I could just paypal Ltbarclay like 10 bucks every month or whatever I would.
>>336
The whole point is to remain anonymous. If the site or it's owner are not, then DMCA claims will follow, just like it did on the old site. This kills the array.
i think a good way to stay private and receive cash would be to use a Middle transaction system send money directly to barcely and he can spend it on the site im not too good with legal stuff but i think it would work also if you pay barcely directly to a wallet im sure they will let people pay someone in usd and have it converted to btc for your use on array or site
>>336
So that I can stay 100% anonymous and continue to provide this DMCA-free playground for you all. The second I pay for hosting with anything other than cryptocurrency, is the second the site has to start complying with DMCAs.
>>337
Unforunately, the same applies to receiving traditional money. The second I give out personal identifiable information whether it be through Venmo, paypal, etc, is the second the whole site has to change. I want the site to stay like it is.
>>338
Exactly. The array would cease to be a thing if I ever revealed who I am through any means, either hosting costs or donations.
>>339
The issue with using a middle-man or "patsy" is that person is then targeted as much as possible. I do not believe anyone would want to be in such a role. Of course, anyone can send BTC directly to the site's wallet, as they have in the past. This mining campaign is strictly for supporting the array. The array works for it's users, and it's users can work for it.
>>333
I for one would be down for mining some lesser known cryptocurrency as part of some pool, even tho i don't really have the spare funds to donate, only a few dollars here or there maybe, but i have a few spare machines with last gen graphics cards
I am all down for supporting the array but can't find a program to help since I have an older laptop. Any suggestions?
Could we send LtBarlclay bitcoin to be able to operate the array if our PC's (specifically if we have low-powered laptops) can't mine?
>>333
So if I have an embedded GPU, I'm basically screwed? What about requiring users to view ads or something before they can access their link?
>>344
I didn't realize so many people are using ancient computers. I will add CPU mining back to the support package tonight.
>>345
I have been thinking about building a pc to do some mining of my own, and seeming as you are an expert on this, would I be able to mine 24/7 for the array and for myself?
why not just make a torrent and put it on pirate bay ???? like is done for movies, games, etc ??
>>347
idk exactly how torrents work, but could they be hosted on this site? Or a thread dedicated to magnet links?
>>345
Yes, you could mine for yourself on your GPU(s) and for the array on your CPU. Roughly 95% of your earnings would go to yourself that way, and it would still help the array and allow you to use it.
>>347
>>348

There are two issues with torrents. The first is longevity. Torrents have been posted here in the past. These usually last around the same amount of time as a MAB or files.fm upload. Why? Because no one seeds forever. This leads to point #2. The only reason the array has lasted nearly a year, is because it makes NO direct connections with users. No FTP, no DCC, and DEFINITELY, not seeding a torrent. VPN or not, I'm not willing to expose the array's IP to the world. I'm not going to jail for fat porn.
>>333
Hey my computer is kinda old so would the mining be safe for it?
>>333
Why not just go back to the add thing? Because it seems like a lot of people myself included have only an ancient laptop and mining dosent seem possible which leaves us sorta SOL.
How much does it even cost to run the array?
We could start off small and start to add a few more admins.

I know the site is popular enough and has the potential to become more popular, but the bumping and begging has severely increased.

Worst still, one of the mods, whoever they are "banned" me for complaining about people bumping.

So the actual people who are bumping are still doing it, are still getting away with it and not getting banned, and I get a ban for sticking to the rules.

Its impossible for the mods to be online 23/7, I know that, but if you start banning people for banning then the basis of the whole website flow is just.. wrong.

Keep the board stable with less bumping and begging and finally teach people how to use the array, which i think is the best option, and hopefully people will be more willing to donate.
>>349
Might seem like a broad question but is mining for the array secure? As in, nothing will make its way back to the end users

I have no experience with mining bitcoin, and I'm running a linux system on an old laptop. I'd still like to mine, but how would I go about doing this? I'm not asking for a huge in depth tutorial, just wondering what keywords I should search for and look into
>>353
This. I used to bump and beg for re-ups a lot myself until I decided to stop being lazy and learn to use the array. If the phrases "bump" or "re-up" resulted in an autoban, with a message pointing them to the array, there'll probably be a lot more miners.
>>333 doesn't work on my mac so I cant do anything or download off the array
>>353
You weren't banned for following the rules, you were banned because you were making too much of a scene.

If you want to do something about them, report the posts and make sure you say why you're reporting them. This way we're more likely to check on them and deal out any punishment.

That being said, bumping always has been and probably always will be a part of chan culture. So you may never be happy with the level of bumping vs. the level of moderation pertaining to said bumping.

Also, let me commend you on your choice of threads in which to make an off-topic post while also ban evading.

tl;dr USE THE REPORT FUNCTION

now do you see how much long winded posts work, not much at all, right?
i'd love to support the array, but i can't mine with my laptop. so what can i do?
I would really appreciate it if one of you guys could tell me how to exactly do this stuff since I am mining,but when I try to upload something the Array tells me i'm not a miner.
I also can't mine. There has got to be a way to just send and receive cash anonymously
I'm all for mining to keep the array going but I'm using an iMac - doesn't seem to be possible to mine with this computer.

Is there some way I can mine with Apple equipment or am I just SOL?
Ive been trying to figure out how the array works. I can follow the instructions well enough, but will using it set off any red flags as far as to my internet provider? I already got a letter for torrenting and I'd rather not push any luck here
>>360
>>358
You can always donate with bitcoin.
"Donate BTC to support the site/array: 14GxkBW7phCVe8Qzugfa4mdbwfusND8uS3
Buy bitcoin safely and easily with sites like coinbase.com or localbitcoins.com"
>>363
so will i be able to download stuff from the array if i donate btc directly?
>>333
WTF is mining?
>>333
I'm able to get the miner running but I don't know how to set to mine under my username. Any solutions?
>>362
>>358
>>359
>>360
>>361

Mining requirement has been removed.

>>362
No, no one cares if you use irc or mine cryptocurrency. Both are perfectly legal and normal.

>>364
Thought about that, but never wanted to make the array pay to play.
Dear lt barclay

Why not just bring back ads.its not hard for people to click box with an x in it.

If your in the top 50000 websites you'd be crazy not to.you wouldnt even need to rely on donations then.
>>333
These days BTC are all mined with dedicated hardware so asking people to use their CPU/GPU to make BTC seems a waste of resources.

Is the issue traceability? Perhaps you'd be able to put all donations through a bitcoin mixer? Would that help?
>>368
No advertising network that pays out in bitcoin, pays any kind of decent money.

>>369
We were mining alt-currencies and trading for bitcoin, which is still pretty lucrative on consumer hardware.

Tracebility is a pretty huge concern. Running through a mixer wouldn't help much, because the traditional donations would still be received through traditional means first (paypal etc), which would be identifiable.
>>370
https://99bitcoins.com/buying-bitcoins-with-paypal-a-practical-guide/

Are any of these options attractive? Users could send their new traceable BTC to a per-user private address on bbw-chan.nl and then you could send them to a mixer to generate unlinked coins for paying the host.
I was wondering if this site or domain is technically a part of the deep web if anyone knows?
>>371
After looking through these options, I don't think any regular person would be willing to go through those kinds of hoops for BTC to donate. It's just too much work.

>>372
No, not really. At best, we are obfuscated: domain is registered in iceland, hosted by a company in the netherlands, from a server off the coast of africa. That's pretty deep, but not exactly deep web.

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