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Final site status update LtBarclay 06/28/2018 (Thu) 00:36:50 No. 4636
TLDR: I'm handing off the site, soon. For reasons.

In case you aren't a part of our discord and missed it: my job IRL has been outsourced. You might have noticed I have basically been MIA: not modding, not re-uploading content, not contributing to discussions, not running the array, barely on discord… that's essentially the result of extreme depression. Losing a job you put a decade of your life into is…I'm really not sure how to explain it. Despair. Despair is the best word I can come up with.

While the lack of donations / use of the miner support page was previously just an annoyance, it has now become a serious issue. Where before the yearly site cost was a mere 2.36% of my yearly take home pay, it now exceeds 100% of my net income. What's worse, I have some… *ahem*… things on my permanent record that essentially mean my job search will be incredibly arduous and I will probably end up flipping burgers. Even if I "fix" my income situation by getting another job, in all likelihood I will still not be able to fund our hosting costs.

After 2 months of zero donations it's quite clear: I cannot keep paying for this site, and a hand-off to board staff is imminent.

I'm really sorry I let you all down. I know I said I would pay for the site until at least 2019 but circumstances have accelerated the timeline I had hoped to adhere to.

The good news: I have been buying a little more bitcoin than we need to pay our costs each month. The next administration will have around 6 months worth of funds (assuming prices stay relatively stable) to figure out if the site will continue as it is, or needs drastic changes. For the record, 0.12 bitcoin (~$750 as of this post) will be transferred to the new admin to cover hosting while they figure out what they want to do. I want to make it clear these funds were purchased by me and were NOT donated. If they were, we wouldn't be in the position we are now.

Beyond that, I am documenting the site's setup procedure in case moving to another host is required. Should the new administration need to change hosting providers, I don't recommend vichan be used again. I highly suggest moving to another platform such as lynxchan or similar current forum software. vichan had it's day. If we must move on, please encourage your new overlord(s) to move to a more modern forum suite, even if it means losing all existing content.

All that said, money troubles aren't the only thing at play here. The chan isn't what it once was. We've essentially become the piratebay of fatty porn. That's all well and good if it's all you've ever known it to be, but TSG, Jess, I, and others know it used to be much more, and that "complete package" has not managed to survive the multiple incarnations of the chan. Every successive jump the site has lost more and more of it's soul, it's mantra, it's way. I have a general feeling of malaise when I compare what we are now to what we were that only gets worse when I acknowledge, due to my own choices, there's really no going back. That saddens me and brings me to a point where, when I really am honest with myself I begin to realize I feel exactly as TSG and Jess did: I just don't want any part of it anymore. It's become a hauntingly obvious cycle of admins that come in, run the site for awhile, get disillusioned at the community and lack of support, then pass the torch to another generation of admins. I am wholly conflicted in that on the one hand, I appreciate and adore this site, while on the other, I see the wisdom in letting this whole damn thing burn to the ground. That isn't the mindset you want an admin to be in… and yet, it's so eerily similar to what happened to the last admin that I fear the site is eventually and ultimately doomed.

However, I will pass the torch rather than using it to set the frame ablaze. I want to say that I appreciate everyone who has offered help, donated, run the miner support page, and suggested solutions. While it might have been futile in the end, you tried, so thank you from the bottom of my heart. Good luck on the next step of the journey, explorers.
Thank you guys for everything you've done. I'm really sorry.
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Thank you for all you have done for us, I'm sorry it ended this way but I would just like to thank you for this great experience. This goes out to you
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You gave it your best. Let this fucker BURN.
Sad to see you go, I still think you were a great admin and personally, I felt /gen/ had improved a bit back to how it used to be, even if the other boards didn't.

I can only wish you the best, you're a good guy, don't let the world weigh down on you.
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I've never been able to donate or provide anything for this site, but I enjoyed my experience here and am thankful for it. Just a lurker finally posting that wanted to say thanks. Again, thanks Based Barclay for running this chan. Godspeed and good luck on your future endeavors.
You took on a thankless job and made this chan stable. I'm not sure how you did it — I can only assume some alchemic mix of technological savviness and black magic — but you did and we all owe you a debt of gratitude.

If nothing else, I sincerely hope your job search is quick and painless and that you manage to get your life back on track. Whatever you do though, please don't despair.

Godspeed, sir.
Shit damn, i'll be honest I don't think anyone would want the adminship for this. There's not much magic left in all this.

Rather, I hope you find a job that fits your qualification and doesn't leave you in the same kind of despair that handling this board did.
BARCLAY!!! :'-O

BARCLAY, I'M SORRY!!! :'-O
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You're a god damn good man. This site has helped me through some tough times. Thanks BarClay.
thanks barclay, ya did what ya could, and that's more than most of us.
No worries LtBarclay. We've got lots to fap to. I too wish the next administration the best.

What about yourself? I hear job hunting is super hard now adays and especially if you have a tainted record. Have you thought about going overseas? Still tons and tons of opportunity all around Asia. Start off by teaching English and work your way up, or find a cheap country like Thailand and make your dollars working online.

Losing your job sucks. But it wasn't yours to begin with caus it belonged to the boss! So no need to be in mourning. Just fuck it all off and start again.

Good luck to you LtBarclay. Godspeed!
Thank you for everything, I feel like letting this whole thing burn would just be better for the world. I've seen a jump in the amount of models that are leaving due to creeps finding them IRL and pushing them out and it's just cancer.
You did really good LtBarclay and I would've donated if I had the money. :(

Also I tried to warn you about vichan when the site was new.
Im genuinly sorry to hear your of situation Barclay. Fuck, I wish Id done more to help you. My heart goes out to you. Godspeed, I pray you land on your feet.
thanks barclay. hope things work out for you in the end.
Good luck man. Stay strong. Thank you for all you've done. As others said, this site has been here for me when I needed it and I have you to thank. You do fantastic work!
Good. When the community defends pedos while raging about furries, and Uknon had a pass to be a complete and constant cunt while others had been perma-banned for less, I'm glad this shit is falling apart. It was obvious to those who don't indulge in the filth and defend the tard carnival. Hope any MAPs/NOPs reading this get hit by a bus. Fuck y'all, I'm out!!
>>4636
Thank you for the time and efford you have given to this site and community.

Many things have changed during these years in fetish circles in general and it has become slightly more acceptable than what it used to be. Maybe it's time to let bbw-chan to reborn to something different.

Lastly, best of luck to you for getting your life back on track.
Hey, thanks for all your work man. I just want everyone to know that if this site dies so do I. I'll off myself. I'm basically an ugly unemployed loser who spends much of his day on site like this to attempt to satisfy my fatty porn addiction. I have no friends much less girlfriends and can't afford whores. I have nothing to live for. The world would be better off if I died. I'm a burden to everyone around me including all of you who supply the porn I consume without lifting a finger to help you. Fuck me. I deserve it.
I think moreso than anything reddit stole the thunder of this chan's naivety.

I dislike reddit, but I doubt it's going away :(

thanks for all your hard work barclay! Sorry to see you go. maybe you'll enjoy the site more as a once a month fap check, rather than a 24/7 admin nightmare.
That sounds like a really shitty situation, and I’d feel sorry for anyone in it, let alone someone who’s done so much for this little community. Here’s hoping you find your way out, and thanks again!
>>4658
Gl buddy, btw is the array online and or how do I access it?
Long text incoming.

At the crux of the issue is simply what this site means to people. According to our awstats page, we had 153,000 UNIQUE visitors to the site this month and it has been growing steadily for a long time. If only 0.02% of those users donated $5/month (30 users), our hosting costs would be more than covered, but in 18 months that has NEVER happened.

So when we talk about a "community", I don't believe that term actually applies here. In an real community, I would expect at LEAST 0.02% of that group to care enough to go the distance to either mine or purchase the paltry amount of cryptocurrency we need to survive. Since that has never happened (and will never happen), we can't actually apply the word "community" here. A community would look after each other, support each other, FIND A WAY to make sure they do not collapse under the combined weight of their collective apathy. That did not occur. Apathy casts a long shadow.

When I run the numbers, I feel the best term that applies to us is an organization. We all have common interests, we all enjoy our current state of existence, but we do not feel any personal responsibility to the upkeep of said organization. I would liken to it a company where the employees clock in and clock out, expecting outside angel investors, management, and the general public at large to pay for expenses without having to invest in any way in the organization that provides them with their day-to-day activities themselves. They believe merely showing up and participating is all that is required of them, and that the specifics of the funding of the company is well beyond their influence. Of course, for us that isn't at all true when the CEO suddenly finds his other outside ventures no longer provide any means that he can use to invest in his own company, and the employees themselves don't actually produce any meaningful 'value' to the organization and are rather just a drain on resources.

Analogies aside, what does this site mean to people? Put simply, it is just a means to an end. Whether it be satisfying a porn addiction, just a quick fap to relieve stress, or a way to converse with like minded people, it's clear that should any of these avenues cease to exist it would not bother the VAST majority in the slightest.

And so you see what I mean when I say "I just want no part of it anymore". There is no sense of communion anymore, there is no sense of shared responsibility. This site exists as a conduit for behavior and nothing more. There is no community to speak of.

When I say I tried, I mean it. I tried to provide the absolute best for our users. No ads. No DMCA takedowns. I scaled back the overbearing modding that pissed off a small amount of users. I gave us the best hosting and best connection I could. I kept up to date on vichan's development and implemented security fixes as needed. I re-uploaded content relevant to the "community", I even gave them a way to request specific content they were interested in via the array. NONE OF IT MATTERED. None. There is no way I can accurately describe the lengths I went to to create the environment I felt would persuade our users to support us, and it still wasn't enough. Faced with this I also can't accurately describe how broken it makes me feel when I realize there is really nothing I could have done that would have ended up with a different outcome than me leaving.

I was starry-eyed when I was given the opportunity to run the site I had visited for so long that had brought me so much joy. I felt that finally, I could turn this site into something that reflected how much I adore and appreciate BBWs that users would also appreciate and support. As the months wore on I lost that naivety, but I stayed at it until I literally could not do it anymore. In the end, I learned a very good lesson about the internet and the public. It must be a lot like someone who volunteers their time and money for a good cause like a homeless shelter but then slowly realizes that most of those in that system might not actually deserve the effort they put in making stranger's lives better. They use and abuse the support system offered to them, and even once they are "back on their feet" completely forget the shelter and the people who brought them food, gave them clothing, provided a place to stay, and wished them the best.

This was a once in a lifetime chance for me. I got us into the top 10,000 sites in the US, a feat which is NOT EASY. The site itself is estimated to be worth over a million dollars, but without support from it's users, guess what it's actual value is? Worthless. That's a shame, but considering the history of the site I should have known better. As I said, I was naive. I have learned more about human behavior here than I ever have IRL. In a way, it's an absolutely true representation of humanity as a whole: when not REQUIRED to contribute to a system they use, humans will allow said system to implode via their own indifference or inability to quantify what that system means to them.

I know there are good users. I know there are satisfied users. I also know that most of these fall into the silent majority. Much like the apathy that caused Trump to be elected, apathy here has doomed the future of this site. Thankfully, there are alternatives, we are not the only fat-focused site of the web, and those that call this place home will have places to move to. I apologize I was not able to "capitalize" on our popularity, our name recognition, our user base, or anything for that matter. Had I been an entrepreneur like Xen from stufferdb, things might have turned out much different. Unfortunately, I was and am just another user when it comes down to it. I am not business minded. I am not focused on profit.

Like many startups, the "vision" of it's leader does not guarantee success, and in our case, it actually guaranteed failure. I was not aggressive enough, not forceful enough, not nearly as cutthroat as I needed to be to ensure we survived the inevitable result of a site that had become distilled piracy rather than a community. I might say I am sorry for my faults, but we are way past admission of shortcomings or forgiveness of them or any of that having any bearing on the future of the site. I can only hope the next admin isn't nearly as green or clueless as I was.

I wish I had an army. As it is, all I have is a hopeful "organization". It's not enough. I offer myself in the hope the next can lead us to sustainability. Godspeed to my successor. It's not an easy thing to lead, nor admit defeat.
>>4636
>>4666
I've been here since the beginning and donated when I could. Unfortunately my finances aren't doing too well now, either. Thank you for your hard work, LtBarclay, and I hope you find peace in the future.
>>4666
Honestly the biggest problem with donating was dealing with cryptocurrency. Of that 153000 do you honestly believe any of us would understand it, let alone have bought into it? Ultimately, this all reads like a bawwpost. Moderating a chan is a thankless job??? WHOA WHO COULDA THUNK IT???
>>4668
Exactly. Not even 0.02% of users are willing to "understand" or "buy into" supporting the site. Which is why I am abandoning my post. If I can't even get that amount of users to jump through the hoops to continue our Ad-free and DMCA-free existence, then there is no point. I tried, and failed, and I'm willing to admit that and pass the torch.
>>4666
The only thing left you've refused to try is accepting real money donations. It's so baffling. I don't want to donate $5/mo because to donate $5 in BTC, it costs $20 transaction fee.
>>4669
You're a good man and I appreciate your efforts, at any rate. You are right that you are not a profit-seeker, but just another lurker - probably one of the better ones on any chan, because not only did you make OC, your OC was an entire website.

Again, I wish the bar to donate wasn't set so incredibly high (imagine a muscian peddling on a corner requiring you to login, give your bank info and/or CC numbers and personal email address to some strange website, etc. just so you could throw a dollar in his hat) but if that's still the one non-negotiable thing, then c'est la vie.
>>4670
BTC transaction fees are much lower than that currently (about 12 cents), but I get your point. I'm not trying to defend my position. I've explained multiple times how I'm not prepared to accept real money donations due to my extreme paranoia about my anonymity. No one seems to think that matters, and that's their prerogative. If users think being Ad-free and DMCA-free isn't worth buying/using cryptocurrency, that's absolutely understandable. The next admin will almost assuredly accept real money donations, have ads / popunders, and respect DMCA so they do not have the same problem I did. I, however, will not compromise my position that my anonymity is of utmost importance.
>>4672
Right on man, I can definitely respect your commitment, if not your position. Still, that suggests to me that you'll pull through this hardship no matter what, because you're too stubborn to give up and take an easier way out in violation of your principles. Even if nobody voiced it, there are objectively thousands upon thousands of people who looked forward to visitng the site you made, even if they didn't say thanks. Most internet-goers aren't even the types who are aware that websites have needs and cost money for independent admins, so I don't think they're all badly intentioned. Whatever your goals were, you made a site that many people really enjoyed. All successful people fail along the way, so I expect in your personal life there are successes yet to come. What industry were you in? There may be less-outsourceable industries tertiarily (is that a word?) related to yours that you could get into. For example: Electrical work at big factories is now being very much computer controlled because of all the machinery, so IT and programming skills are a big gap for what was a technical, but not so technical field. Opportunities are out there, and I'm sure you'll find one.
While you did many things I didn't agree with, you at least tried.
>>4674
I made many, many mistakes. Mod-free march was a disaster. Staunchly from day 1 only accepting crypto and not respecting DMCAs, which locked out real money donations & traditional advertisers, was a giant blunder. Allowing the heavy-handed moderation of Jess for as long as I did was fucking stupid. You probably have even more examples to cite, and you should probably should, to give the next admin as many possible lessons about what NOT to do.
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>>4666
There's a reason why Use and Abuse (swelt remix) is the number 1 duel may for Quake 3.

Lots of people played Q3 until on it's death bed, the glorious map surfaced that has not been recreated since.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OxXDPl-TB4
>>4668
This exactly. I would have liked to donate but the cryptocurrency is way too bothersome way to do it. I tried the mining page thing, but the truth is that it's utterly waste of eveything since so inefficient.
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Godspeed, Barclay. You've been great.

As for me, I'm gonna second/third/umpteenth the crypto thing, but not because of the inability for people to understand it. I've bought crypto a few times (though only in increments of say $50 max) and it's not that hard to figure out. However, with the massive crazy price fluctuations BTC has had, putting it in the limelight Nov-Feb or so, I doubt those who understood it wanted to donate, as we were all sorta blinded by the promise of MASSIVE GAINZ that didn't end up panning out. So greed, mainly.

As for BBWchan, I've always just kinda assumed it'd be there, and I think everyone else felt the same way. I've seen it change URLs a couple times and honestly I've always blocked ads because of the high probability of malware through them on previous admins, so I never realized your administration didn't have them. I thought my adblock was just doing its job. So I thank you for that.

There is one last bit of potential moneymaking opportunity you could try if you're interested, that's super simple, and keeps with crypto. I'm not sure how, but I know there are certain websites that will use users' CPU to mine crypto in the background. The Steven Universe piracy site stevenuniver.se is an example. I know you're not the type to use that across the site, but maybe if you made a link to that over by the other links, from which people could just click it and donate their CPU/a little bit of electricity, it'd work. I know I personally wouldn't mind so long as it only ran while I had BBWchan open. You're a good dude and I'd like to contribute, and an "invisible" way like that where we aren't directly donating money would be fantastic. It'd just show up as 30 cents here or there across hundreds of thousands of electricity bills.

You seem burned out though, and honestly, I wouldn't blame you if you don't care enough at this point to want to implement that. There's no telling what you'd actually get from it either, since, like you've been dealing with, your problem is that it'd rely on the goodwill of people. Especially chan users.

Either way, I wish you the best of luck in your life outside the chan, and thank you for your years of service. This hellhole might not have been great to you, but you sure were to it.
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>>4675
I honestly don't see this site getting picked up by anyone that's not gonna dial it back to how it was during the age of Jess and ban the pirating.

Only thing I can think of to suggest at this moment is dial back on the board segregation with threads centered around specific series or artists that don't have humans outnumbered by furries. Allow people to spoil pics of characters like Freya from FFIX or Kat from Breath of Fire II in threads.
Barclay,

You did not fail us. We failed you.
thank you LtBarclay! you've been amazing - it's such a thankless job and you've been ever-present.
I enjoyed your regular Adeptus Mechanicus posts! I'm sorry the 'community' has let you down, and I wish you luck in life outside the Internet. So long and thanks for all the fish you legend
This may seem a little obtuse so forgive me, but would creating a Patreon in order to pay for the hosting costs of the site be an option?
>>4636
End of an era. But I've had a similar feeling about this site.
Time for an end or something new.
Changes need to be made or this site won't last to see next year.

Thank you for the time, effort, and money you put into this site. I appreciate it.
If keeping yourself anonymous is an issue, couldn't you create a paypal solely dedicated to bbw-chan?
It would be much easier to donate and you wouldn't even have to use your real name either.
>>4700
Paypal are known to confiscate funds for anything adult related
if we go back to the dmca it might not be so bad, when jess was the dmca agent we got VERY few actual dmca's. mostly from bannana galactic and big cuties manager… most others would whine, but were too lazy to actually dmca every post.

I really hope we don't go back to the DNP era though, one flimsy request and then all content is taken down forever was harsh, although the dnp era saw girls like emma bailey anorei collins and miss mara actually posting here (super super super long time ago).
You should have put a "Donate" button at the top and bottom of every page. As well as closed the site every month, except for a visible Donate button, until the expenses of the site were paid for for that month. That's what Viewcomic.com does. I don't even know how to donate to this site, nor do I know or understand what cryptocurrency is.
I’ve valued this site a lot over the years. If I were to sponsor the site 50% for the next year, where should I email you to coordinate?
What's the deal with moderators deleting all negative comments on this thread?

Not posting any myself, just noticed them vanishing.
As a guy with depression I feel you man..
Sorry to hear about everything
Godspeed
I just saw this thread and you all have my deepest sympathies. :( I know how it feels to be sunk in despair. I promise things will get better, your tribulations in life are just a refiner's fire that will forge you into a superior material.

You will survive and so will this site. I wish I wasn't totally broke to my name, but you have my full support.
>>4712
Waving money
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cryptocurrency "explained" :-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6iDZspbRMg
It usually takes admins a year or two to realize that even though almost every user on chan could afford to give something for all the years and TBs of porn they've been jerking to for free, that user support is low because the site is frequented mostly by cheap entitled assholes who'll just go to one of 50 other places without a second thought if the site closes anyway. Its no surprise that people who don't want to pay for porn, don't want to pay someone else for that porn either.

Good luck Barclay its a shame that just like other admins you've kinda wasted this part of your life ensuring that people who can actually afford to pay for their porn, don't even need to consider it. I assume you've realized that now.

On the bright side, at least you didn't waste as much time as Jess……. she wasted over 10 years lol - now that's a long time but, she was an asshole.

This place should have the lights turned out, Its shitty, toxic and full of man-childs.
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>>4695
As I've explained before, it's not about WHO donates to us, it's about HOW a payment processor would actually send us payments. A patreon doesn't work because I would need to give my real info to patreon in order to get paid.

>>4700
In the way way before time, this was kind of sort of possible. It's not anymore. New paypal accounts are heavily scrutinized, and even if I bought an identity off the darknet to setup a "fake" paypal, how would I then get the funds out? You can't purchase crypt o directly with paypal funds, and you can't deposit or withdraw without verifying identity (like sending something to your address). They are also extreme easy to subpoena for information if you believe someone is using paypal for illegal activity.

>>4706
The new admin has explicitly stated we will not be going back to DMCA.

>>4708
I didn't want to be pushy. I wanted my effort to speak for itself and cause people to want to donate. Being that forceful could drive away the vast majority of our (take it or leave it) users.

>>4712
Try admin@bbw-chan.nl , just don't send from gmail ;)

>>4717
No one is doing that, we lost some posts when I did a big update for the server transition and had to restore a backup.

>>4718

Terrible divorce to someone I should have never married. Class A domestic violence, not expungeable. Permanent record.

>>4719

Absolutely.

>>4745
Yes it's hard to believe she lasted as long as she did. But the lights are not going out… I think you'll like the new server/admin.
>>4658
If you've uploaded stuff, you've paid the community back. You helped feed someone else's fatty porn addiction. Be proud!
>>4677
Same, idk if I just never figured out how to use it properly or something, but generating any real amount of money on that thing seems pretty impossible. Maybe if every user agreed to contribute, it wouldn't be an issue to just leave it on for a while and cough up 30c each, but since the cost is being carried by less than 0.02% of the userbase, that's not a significant contribution.
I feel bad for letting the cryptostuff scare me away from donating (like honestly up until now I thought that running the mining page would run up all my bandwith and didn't think to google it to doublecheck). But I only started looking into it after Barclay's calls for more donations started, by which point you'd have to have been mining 24/7 to make a contribution.

>>4678
I think this is a really great idea.
>>4745
if i didnt know any better, i'd say i typed this response. that said, i got a feeling a lot more minors are the ones acting their age than adults. but its very true that many adults behave like broke ass man children over porn, and get extremely emotional when they cant have any.
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>>4745
>>4754
>you damn entitled man-children, it's all your fault the chan is dying
>/ourguy/ Barclay doesn't deserve this
Manchild here. I don't support this site because I've made every effort to reach out to the administration and been ignored or shut down at every turn, usually because "I'm lazy" or "NO THAT WON'T WORK AND I DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHY." I've even offered to moderate, as I used to moderate old bbw-chan to some amount of success, to no avail. I've pointed out patterns in the behaviors of posters, suggested ways that moderation or the rules could be improved, and stated the obvious in that if someone misbehaves, they should be banned, not publicly scolded like an unruly, attention-seeking child.

All of this has been for naught. Everything I take the time to post goes completely unheard, while Barclay continues to blogpost his ass off and everyone goes "AWWW, WHAT A GREAT GUY, HE CARES SO MUCH," while posting quality has taken a tremendous nosedive ever since he took over the site. All of the drawn boards, ALL of them, are fucking trash fires and have been for a long time. Where I used to visit them for content, paid or otherwise, and maybe occasional discussion, I now only go there to warm my hands in the dumpster fire and have a giggle at whatever drama is brewing. There was also no need whatsoever for a separate furry board, as there's barely enough content to fill /bbwalt/ as it is without quarantining the furries, whose board is equally dead, which brings me to my next point: Look at all the fucking boards.

I come here for drawn content, and only drawn content, or at least I used to before poor moderation turned this into a haven for actual children posting circle tool scribbles. I don't care about the real board, the futa board, the muscle board, the pregnancy board, et cetera. Realistically, with how slowly this chan moves, we could do away with more than half of the boards, and the ones that remain would only benefit from a higher concentration of posting, seeing as you wouldn't have people constantly tiptoeing around arbitrary lines that have been drawn in the sand.

What I'm getting at is that the cost of this board, for the content that I do give a shit about, would only be a fraction of what is currently needed for the yearly goal if it weren't for the shit that I don't care about, and the proximity of that content to what I do like is probably part of the reason why the community here is such a bizarre patchwork of age groups and interests, which leads to a lot of the shitposting.

tl;dr: Administration doesn't listen to feedback, they only pretend to, we have too many low-pop boards that could be merged or straight-up axed if people could stop shitting the bed because they saw a thread they don't like, and I don't wanna pay for 100% of a site that I only use 10% of, especially when that 10% is moderated as poorly as this one is.

There. I promised I wasn't going to waste any more of my fucking time on this board, but I've been along for the ride way too goddamn long to just watch it sink like this.
>>4759
Hey, I never said I was a good a mod. Also, in the early days I did remove the trans, penis, and BHM boards but TSG brought them back. I guess that's been a lot of my problem.. I deferred to other Jess and TSG for many decisions right up until now.

I also wouldn't classify us as a "slow" chan. At around ~200 posts a day site wide, I think you'll find we're far away from "dead"…. 10-20 posts/day? Yea, that'd be slow. Are we slow compared to 4chan/8ch? Sure. At well over 1000 / week I'd have to say we're at least moderately active.

As for the furries board, it made sense when we made it, but yes it does seem it hasn't really taken off much. The new admin might have some plans to remove some boards.

As far as me "listening", I do. I don't act much because at the end of the day, you have to take into consideration that those who voice their opinion do NOT represent the majority of people's wishes. You are a very special person for even taking the time out to visit and reply to this thread. Most of the site's users have continued to do their thing past all my blogs posts, all my pleas, all my everything. They use the site for what they want to use it for, nothing more, nothing less. If they see something they don't like, they don't speak up, they just work with it. So when I see someone like you take the time out and make a thoughtful reply, it might move me, but unless I see another 10-30 posts of the same thing, I have to take it as one person's opinion, not as gospel.
>>4666
Seconding what other users have said in that if I could just drop a couple bucks with my credit card and not have to do all this crypto nonsense, I would now and then.
Does the new board setup resolve the financial unsustainability issue?
so where do we go when this place shuts down?
>>4763
>The new admin might have some plans to remove some boards
Did he ever say things they might not allow that your administration did beyond pirated content?
well I guess I need to speak up before its all gone I joined this board way, way back in 2010. I enjoyed the site immensely when it was about young ladies posting pics of themselves here, fatty porn pics and some drama. But yeah the site has basically become the Pirate Bay for Fat Lovers.

We failed you Barclay, you did not fail us. The drama turds and Tumblr helped drive away the original content creators here. The porn hungry masses looking for movies of women stuffing their faces with at least 5 pounds of food, filled the board with beggars and wastrels. To be honest I basically started to hang around /gen/ because it had better content in my opinion. And after a while i basically was only coming around once or twice a month. But i still loved this site with all my heart because it was where I got my start in the FA community.

I wish i could say that there were a few things that definitely ruined the site, but i do not feel as if that is the case. From my long years on the internet i know that all things do change and some just fade away, so i would argue that this was inevitable if nothing else.

In the end i will miss this site immensely when it goes but i have the pics and the good memories of this place to sustain me. But Barclay you and many others were some of the best admins I have ever seen in the -chan community. You and the others will be missed.
>>4763
>"Everyone just lurks so I ignore the people who bother to say anything"

you always complain that this site doesn't have the community it used to, that half the people just lurk and will never contribute, don't love the site etc.

Meanwhile, you shun the people who do speak up, who do love the site and want to see it grow, saying "The majority of lurkers wouldn't agree". Ok, but those lurkers probably wouldn't donate either.

Another thing I might mention, on the case of 10-30 posts, many many many posts have been made regarding crypto being a bad idea for donations. I'm not saying you don't have the right to anonymity, but for all your crying over nobody donating you never found a way to solve this, i'm unsure as to whether out of laziness, not being bothered or simply couldn't work it out, but it is very simple to make ways to anonymously take donations other than bitcoin.

Don't get me wrong, you were a good captain, and i'm interested to see what happens now. I just wish we could have worked something out, and I hope that we do before the next captain gives up on us too.
ill be honest, since i was 13 this site fed my fetish for fat porn and without it i dont know if i could have enjoyed it as much. i thank the guys at the top for the hard work, i legit have no idea how u guys do it.

as for donations- i would have donated a crisp 50 buck to this site if there was a way of taking that from my bank acc. straight to the admin. im not too tech savvy but i dont fuck with bitcoins, and never will. Hell-i couldnt even work out the Array and i fix million dollar planes for a living….

Thanks for making my 'weird' fetish one that i felt wasnt so weird after all. a good bunch of weirdos in here even when they just roast each other. it was funny
>>4771
StufferDB
>>4636
Hang in there bro. Been there - restarting all over again after a long ass time. Feels rough

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