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BBW-Chan was saved by some generous donations, but stay vigilant! We'll need to do this every month from here on out >>>gen/6363

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Where will you go? What will you do? LtBarclay##FuufeZ 01/15/2019 (Tue) 18:01:42 Id:28fd40 No. 6363 [Last 50 Posts]
Let's assume we don't meet our funding goal for hosting and the site dies in a few weeks.
Will you be happy to have your life back, or sad that a site that existed for over a decade finally imploded?
Will you seek out another anonymous chan, or are you tired of communities like ours and mewch and others suddenly disappearing and think you'll move to a registered forum?
What do you think about the general decline of chans in the past year? Has trolling / shitposting become so prevalent that anonymous communities are doomed?
Will larger social media sites simply choke out sites like these, or will solutions like IPFS or Syndie (http://syndie.i2p2.de/) be the fix for the current dilemma?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uints81YYMc
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With those seeds in mind, I'll kick it off.
I'll have mixed feelings about the site finally going offline. On one hand it will suck to see my efforts finally be realized in one grand blip from the internet. On the other, I'm not really in a good place to be running a site like this now, and more honestly I never was in the first place. We've lost half our mod team and I haven't been able to recruit anyone because I'm just terrible at being social and checking in and doing public facing stuff. So I think it will probably be good for me personally.

I might dip into one of the other more established chans if it looks like there's a good spot. Idk. Reddit is gross now. 4chan is gross now. Everything is just gross. Is that what being old feels like?

I think there's a lot of potential in these new distributed technologies, but I just wish they were easier to implement and use.
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>>6363
Barclay, you really should've just tried to get funds in ways other than Bitcoin. Not everybody trusts that shit. If I had more money (and I don't), I'd rather pay for the site directly, not through... fuckin' cryptocurrency.
>>6368
Totally agreed. It's unfortunate, maybe if TSG and Jess had vetted me a little more before I took over, we wouldn't be in this position where my obsession with anonymity would eventually get the better of the site. But that discussion is as old as this site is. I'm sorry I can't provide any alternative.
>>6368
My thoughts exactly. I'd give if there were some other way.
I more or less stopped using this website when i joined a few fetish discords. Some of them are pretty alright.

There's still some content that's exclusive to this site, but it's mostly piracy and there's other places to find that too.

So rip I guess.
I'll break this up into two posts to I can answer your original post.

>>6363
By the way, Barclay, any reason why you don't accept XMR or any other alt-coins? Those are pretty popular right now from my understanding.

>Will you be happy to have your life back
yeah right, my focus is shot now thanks to the internet. *sigh* I miss those days.

>Will you seek out another anonymous chan
Sad to say, but chans are dying. I'm hoping that the user loss will be a good thing and it will just be left with high quality posters, but I doubt it. All the mature posters are leaving, and their thoughts usually generate great discussion. That's what happened after /pol/ invaded almost all the popular boards in 8chan. Now it's just one big /pol/.

> registered forum?
They're even deader than chans.

>Has trolling / shitposting become so prevalent that anonymous communities are doomed?
Depends where you go. Here? I'm not sure what the issue is, I think the fact that BBW content is in decline in general might be why the board is dying, nothing to do with you. I stand by what I said before: The best BBW content was created 10-15 years ago, and were just reposting the good stuff over and over again. Sure every now and again something new comes along, but either the people who like it leave, and we go back to reposting the same content indefinitely.

Everywhere else? The politicization of literally fucking everything is killing it. The other day I hopped on to play an online game, and all the regulars were gone. When I checked the board associated with it, at some point someone posted about transgender stuff and gave TMI, which resulted in a huge flamewar and banned users everywhere. At another point sometime after that one, apparently a number of long time regulars got into a big fight over politics. Sometime after that some guy posted about Jailbait shit and argued there was nothing wrong with it and he had thought so for years, which lead to a 3rd fight.

Needless to say no one's playing said game anymore, except the stock bots that spawn when no one else is in the server.

>Will larger social media sites simply choke out sites like these
Depends. Some of those sites are dying, but I assume people will just jump to a new ship. Before Reddit, there was Digg after all. I think every 10 years something new is just bound to take over.

>or will solutions like IPFS or Syndie (http://syndie.i2p2.de/) be the fix for the current dilemma?
People trust these less than they trust bitcoin.
What about 8chan? They’ve got a bbw board. I haven’t ever really used the site much but iirc people can claim boards there and basically someone could do that and just make their bbw board something like this site.
>>6367
>I might dip into one of the other more established chans if it looks like there's a good spot
Well it ain't gonna be 8Chan; Jim fucked up hard and got caught stealing 2Chan and is now buying buy a ton of stuff so he doesn't have to give Hiroshimoot jack shit so it's only a matter of time before the site runs out of funds and dies unless he lets someone else have it. Guess I'll be stuck on IRC until a replacement pops up or the people working on making a decentralized Chan pull it off.
>>6375
We used to. For every new coin or token we'd add, we'd get exactly one donation to the address, almost assuredly from the person who requested we make it available. Then we have to shift it into bitcoin to pay bills, losing some in the process. It just didn't make any sense... barely anyone uses bitcoin, the other currencies even less so.
>>6367
>>6376
>I might dip into one of the other more established chans if it looks like there's a good spot. Idk. Reddit is gross now. 4chan is gross now. Everything is just gross. Is that what being old feels like?
Don't bother with 8chan. If you attract too much attention /pol/ will raid your board. You could make it unlisted, but that won't stop them from finding it. Several dead boards can attest to this being the cause of their death.

I don't know how old you are Barclay, but I've felt this way since I was 24. I think it's called being creeped out by the gross behavior of people. Yeah people always were before, but not like this.

Oh and don't bother with Voat either. The NeoNazi (real Neonazis, not the Reddit/MSM definition of anyone who disagrees with them is a NeoNazi) crew will show up in droves to "redpill" everyone about the mean old Jewish boogyman or some shit.

There's also notabug.io, but I don't know enough about it to give you an opinion on it.

>I think there's a lot of potential in these new distributed technologies, but I just wish they were easier to implement and use.
They never will be. The reason why is because the second they made the regular web as we know it today easy to connect to, it was flooded by people you don't want to be around. A higher barrier means they probably have some sort of intelligence to get there.

If one does become easy, it will probably only exist to make it harder to take people offline to ensure free speech.

>>6377
Not much on IRC these days, and less people want to use it since it can leak your location.

>>6378
Oh okay.
The domain name itself is still registered for quite some time. If we go down, is there any consensus on where I should point it?
>>6379
>less people want to use it since it can leak your location
Same people also think Discord is a safe private alternative. IRC you just need to have someone who knows what they're doing.
Call me a begger if you want, but Id like to know if there are any popular or interesting FA sites other than the obvious choices such as deviantart or fur affinity.
>>6380

How about letting it going down for a time, choose a less expensive provider with less bandwidth and removing any of the sections you don't really like. After all, it's your site LtB.

I basically come here for bbw and gen, that's it. It's piracy that i'm here for being totally honest. It it were my site that's what I'd keep.

Rather than concentrate on goals measured in number of users and the amount of traffic, decide what you want out of it and just keep to that. You could remove a tonne of traffic just from being text and thumbnail size jpg only.

I'd actually spoof the front page and make BBW an acronym for something obscure and stupid like Bulgarian Bird Watching, but that's just me. It's your site you do what you want with it. I'm just suggesting you may have lost sight of what you wanted from here and that being the top bbw chan with a tonne of traffic became your perceived measure of success for here.

Regardless of this, thanks for the site thru the years, it's been a blast and I hope we all get somewhere similar for all us 'lonely dudes' who apparently don't have a life away from here.
I'll miss it, but I also feel that the quality of posts has greatly declined due to relax moderation. There's literally a guy who comes into the echo thread and rights random poorly spelled fantasies that don't even have anything to do with her and the mods will ban him maybe once every 1 million posts. I've stopped reporting such shitposts because one time I got banned for reporting a shitpost like that.

I would give money to the website, but I'm very broke. It's too bad that anonymity is so important here; I think our personality types would be compatible for a friendship.
>>6384
I agree. Once the mods decreased, trolls and shitposters post like there's no tomorrow. The worst of it is the guys who berate uploaders and the "why don't you upload it?" crowd. It's pretty intolerable. I know people hated jess or whatever but at least she would remove threads that were going nowhere and ban problem users. I thought that the trolls were just models that wanted to discourage uploading, but i think the users here are just toxic. I can tolerate the guys who want to make everything about politics, but I don't have time for insult slinging every time I upload. The problem users killed this site the most.

>>6375
BBW porn is not dying. Considering how easy it is to make porn these days and the big FA market, coupled with body positivity, there is more of it than there was before. Maybe the quality is down, but I wouldn't even agree with that. The more extreme parts of FA are more popular than they were before. Go to clips stores and see how much more is being released every day. It's not like people aren't buying it.

>>6372
A fetish discord with strict rules and an emphasis on sharing is the best option. I am part of a few fetish discords myself and more is shared there. You have to share content to see content. Channels can even be made to separate content from random weirdo discussion. However, I'm not sure all that going into running a discord, and if the toxic users from this site just hop onto discord, then there isn't even much of a point in starting it.
Hmm I've never really fucked with discords before, maybe now's the time


the demise of the chans is a bummer though. They were always weird places with lots of internet sadness but they have been interesting places where no barrier at all is placed on speech. Being anonymous is a goddamn liberatory thing, especially when you're a confused eighteen year old
That the goddamn nazis are taking over is a shame

I remember the internet of yesterday and it's gotten worse and corralled into a handful of heavily social media sit. But I dunno I have confidence that something better will emerge eventually
>>6379
>Don't bother with 8chan. If you attract too much attention /pol/ will raid your board. You could make it unlisted, but that won't stop them from finding it. Several dead boards can attest to this being the cause of their death.
I'd presume that /bbw/ wouldn't attract too much attention, presuming only a fraction of people from here migrated to there. It's probably the least worst option at the moment. Even on bigger fetish boards like /trap/, the /pol/ bullshit is pretty minimal. It's other autists that are the big issue, but even they generally stay in their containment threads.

>Oh and don't bother with Voat either. The NeoNazi (real Neonazis, not the Reddit/MSM definition of anyone who disagrees with them is a NeoNazi) crew will show up in droves to "redpill" everyone about the mean old Jewish boogyman or some shit.
The nazi bullshit pretty much acts as a normalfag filter at this point. Any time there's some sort of exodus, usually from Reddit, it will kick to high gear to purge people. So long as you stay away from the big subs (whatever/politics/news/funny, and to a lesser degree Gaming), it isn't terrible. The big subcommunities usually stay on their respective subverses (those being FPH and Qtards).
>>6363
>Will you be happy to have your life back, or sad that a site that existed for over a decade finally imploded?
end of an era huh, suppose it's time for me to try and stop masturbating so much anyway, bbwchan didn't help much on that front, it provided a convenient place to just go and visit for porn, without here, it'll take a lot more dedication on my part, I am genuinely catholic and i see masturbation as my one true vice, so will be good to try and curtail that.
>Will you seek out another anonymous chan, or are you tired of communities like ours and mewch and others suddenly disappearing and think you'll move to a registered forum?
where the fuck else is there to go lmao, any sort of bbw """community""" using that term lightly on reddit is typically embroiled in some century long mod rivalry that takes up 90% of discussion and Curvage is, well curvage, nothing against it, just dislike the forum format. I guess i could go back to 8ch /bbw/ board, wasn't the worst, community is friendly so long as you conform to all the regular chan rules, but certainly wasn't pushing out the kinda content that this place was.
>>6367
pls come to 8ch, you'll be surely missed if you go anywhere else and it's not that bad once you learn to tolerate the mere mention of black people as being subject to being called a cuck
>>6385
Funny you mention problem users. Uknon has been a cancer for this site for ages. People like him have definitely hijacked and ruined the boards. Not sure whose dick he sucked, but the admins have no problem white-knighting for him.
>>6367
thanks for all your hard work. Wherever we go I hope you follow!
>>6363
I've said it many times and i'll put it one last time for literally no other reason than to whine about it

I myself would very easily donate regularly if you didn't only accept bitcoins. not just out of laziness, although there is that, but honestly I really don't appreciate the idea of sending my license etc. to some app or website I don't know or trust. I don't really understand bitcoin and every avenue i've looked at for purchasing it has either required ID or in the case of anonymous ones I could find, charged alot more than the actual value
is it going offline permanently
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>tumblr banning NSFW
>yiff.party probably shutting down
>this place shutting down
>imageboards in general dying
Fucking hell. I guess god really wants me to stop fapping so much or something.

Anyway, rip I guess :(
Anyone know any alternative sites?
>>6379
>le ebil h8chan gnatzees will raid you xDD
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>>6409
>without here, it'll take a lot more dedication on my part, I am genuinely catholic and i see masturbation as my one true vice, so will be good to try and curtail that.
Since your Catholic, try fasting, nofap, and prayer. Also try and aim to go to confession once a month. You don't have to do it every time you fail in the beginning if you genuinely have an addiction. With an genuine addiction it can be considered Venial because you have what is known as "reduced culpability".

If you want more advice, leave some way to contact you and I'll tell you all I know. I've gotten this addiction down to once a week regularly now.
I'd really miss bbwchan, i think there's room in the world for a site like this. I think it has to be paid for with ads though. I think a lot of the internet has to be paid for with ads. In the past couple years though ads on the internet have become "trickier" as the "shittier" ads have paid out less and less.

The hollywood strategy of making sure top tier advertisements won't interface with sites they don't like. aka a follow the money strategy, has I suppose been working, and may be what killed this site.

Social media has hurt the site, but mostly in regards to original content, sharing of popular content from "famous" models is IMO actually at an all time high. In the old days when bbw-chan was "good" models like plumpprincess and production companies like scoreland were on a DNP, meaning the moderators deleted all such threads without even being asked to do so.

I think therefore the only way a site like this could survive would be to have ads, and to follow the dmca, most of these models are too lazy to bother with the dmca. When jess was the official dmca officer the only person who sent more than 1or2 dmca claims in was the guy who runs big cuties who sent in dozens and dozens.

It's a shame there's no way to convert this site into one that is complaint with the dmca, because I'd rather the site be weakened, rather than dead.
>>6385
tl;dr: You and have different interests in BBW porn, it's been great for people like you, but bad for people like me. I think we can at least agree with that much.

>BBW porn is not dying. Considering how easy it is to make porn these days and the big FA market, coupled with body positivity, there is more of it than there was before. Maybe the quality is down, but I wouldn't even agree with that.
This is where we disagree. What I mean by porn dying was that I feel the quality is dying, but apparently you feel differently, which I can respect that.

I will agree with you that there is more of it, but it's more of a specific niche within the BBW niche.

On the softcore side I don't really care about blobs and gaining, which a lot of it has become, which I'm not interested in. There have been a few breathes of fresh air though like Olivia Jadie, but it's no where near what it was like 10 years ago where we had great new models regularly. Most new models are just Instagram whores that think photographing their flab = content. They have no personality or imagination. They're boring to watch.

On the Hardcore side, I'm not into interracial which has exploded in popularity there. The rest is either videos that have creepy guys in them (Bald aids Man, Old Fuck Jeff, and Creepy Stache Guy), or really shitty acting from the female talent. There's some good stuff, but it's rarer now than it was in 2008/2009. I'm not really into HC that much anyways, so it's not a big deal.

>The more extreme parts of FA are more popular than they were before.
Which is great if you are into that. I'm not.

>Go to clips stores and see how much more is being released every day. It's not like people aren't buying it.
I think what I wrote above answers this. It's the niches I don't care much about within an already niche subject.
>>6411
Pic related

So you're looking to jump to 8Chan?
Keep a back up ready just in case:
https://youtu.be/jN4gXNAZeYM?t=2128

A way to lesson recaptcha suffering if you don't care about Hiroshimoot selling your post information on 4Chan:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/buster-captcha-solver/
>>6383
Very measured response, and I pretty much agree. We could downsize alot, make max file size smaller, remove all but the core 6 boards, go super basic on CSS and minify everything and we could get by on a $60/month server like we used to. But, I don't even have the money for that so...yeah. appreciate the support.
>>6384
It's strange isn't it? For all the complaints about Jess and her super-tight mod style, there were much less complaints about shitposting. Now there are less complaints about over moderation, and more about under. Sigh.
>>6385
It's definitely like 10% pissed off models and 90% angsty trolls. Discords are actually becoming a semi-decent way to share content, but I'm still wary not being "in control" of a server like that and it's back end.
>>6403
'freech' sites are dying, and it's troubling to say the least.
>>6409
I can't say I'm all that enthusiastic about migrating to 8ch, but if that's where everyone goes, I'll probably stick my head in.
>>6412
::brofist::
>>6414
This is probably the last gasp, yeah. We're out of funding, we're down 50% of our mods, and things are looking bleak. There's a chance we keep limping along with donations, but that probably won't last.
>>6424
Oh there's definitely a place. If I were any other person, the site probably wouldn't be where we are, and something very similar will inevitably pop up. Probably with DMCA. I had a backup plan for almost every situation, EXCEPT losing my job. I never thought in a million years that would happen.
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>>6433
LtBarclay, I have an idea. You should create a parallel website with no adult content but plenty of ads. Then we could easily support this chan by also visiting your other site, even if it contains nothing but ads. You could still stay anonymous by using Anonymous Ads instead of Google Adsense. By the way, the former can also be used directly on adult sites such as bbwchan.
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Than I salute you Lt.
And the valiant effort you've made to keep this site afloat.

As you and a few others have noted, a lot is changing about online communities.

Perhaps some of us will find ourselves wherever the next leg of the journey is.

Good luck finding new (hopefully gainful) employment, and thanks again
I'll miss this site when it goes but thanks for everything over the years, everyone.
Been a while since the last time I came here, shame to hear the site's future is not looking bright.

I still remember the time when I discovered this kind of communities existed in yahoo groups, then I discovered animexpansion, then deviantart and then, kinda by a mistake...This site.

(heh...the note about bbwchan riding into the sunset just changed for a countdown...that kinda put me in a sad mood)

Comrades, I truly appreciate all the effort you have put here over the years, it was here I learned about better artists,better models, better sites, understand the community's inside jokes...Hell even to use tor.

Will be making a donation soon enough and coming regularly to see how things will unfold.

Thanks a lot
>>6383
I come here for inf and piracy after the demise of Inflatechan, really hoping I don't have to find another chan to go to :(
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>>6440
8- chan (sorry for typing it like that but I got banned last time for using the full name) does have two inflation boards, I even think that they're currently without a Board owner so you can snipe them if you want to and try to attract users.
As for
>>6433
>I can't say I'm all that enthusiastic about migrating to 8ch, but if that's where everyone goes, I'll probably stick my head in.
Believe me, it's not that bad. I've read people in some threads stating that somehow it's a /pol/ infested hellhole, and as someone who goes there daily I can safely say that it's not the case. There IS a feud between communists and neonatzees (or LARPers who pretend to be that, or even pretending to be each other), as well as a group of people who just go around board by board to stir shit up because their fee fees got hurt when they got their board banned, but they only really interact with each other in five boards: /v/, /pol/, /leftypol/, /christian/ and /sudo/. All the other boards have moderation that goes from extremely skeptical of anyone not talking about the board's particular topic, or they're so lax that the all political ideologue idiots just don't even bother moving in (case in point all fetish boards have barely anyone talking about politics). You could even go ahead and make the different sections (bbwdraw, bbwalt etc.) into their own separate boards and hold them all.
OR, alternatively, you could just go to some other pre-existing imageboard that allows board creation. I know there's a few already around with a few users.
>yiff.party
Is it now? Are there any alternatives or mirrors?
>>6418
>>6439

Same. It's weird to get emotional about, but there's a sense of comfort and fellowship that will be genuinely missed. Our nebulous community probably intersects all the time over various platforms. Bbwchan was, is, and always will be a place that I'll remember fondly. (Even all you shitlords.) I hope to see many of you on the other side.

Lieutenant, I salute you. Don't ever think that your efforts weren't meaningful, because they were. You created something here, and I won't forget it for as long as I live. Thank you for all the years of service. Whatever the future holds, I wish you well.
If there was a regular here willing to buy Bitcoin who was publicly endorsed by LtBarclay (and trusted by him obviously), they could act as a donation intermediary. It would solve the anti-Bitcoin issue and those who say they would donate but not in cyptocurrency would have to put their money where their mouths are. Cash goes in, Bitcoin purchased in a one time hit each month, donation made.

Fully aware that this is unlikely to work, not because of a trust issue as I think there are people here who would act honestly with the cash for the sake of the site, but simply because people don't want to donate.
>>6434
This is a cute but not really viable idea. Much like the "money-man-in-the-middle" idea, this little ploy is child's play to figure out for anyone that actually wants to prosecute.
>>6435
Thanks broski. Menial customer service job ho!
>>6439
Yea, I also remember the first time I found 'this' type of online community. It's always something you remember isn't it? Your first online FPS, your first online RPG, your first online forum or image board. Really sticks with you. Amazing considering none of it is 'real'.
>>6440
Cripes, so many have died but there are STILL SO MANY. https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/List_of_*chan_boards
>>6446
Yeah, I'm sure it'll be fine. I guess I'll just miss being the 'boss' a little bit. It was fun to go on the back-end and tinker around with the server sometimes. And yeah, someone should probably look into scraping yiff. I'm sure someone already is, but it might take a concerted, organized effort to save it in any meaningful way.
>>6447
Someone once told me that being an admin is rough, and no matter what, just remember that while some of them might not appreciate -you-, almost all of them appreciate the platform and the site. It gives me a little comfort at least. Thanks homie.
>>6448
Yeah, pretty tough sell. Like I said in discord, if even I can't give up my anonymity to support the site, I can't reasonably expect anyone else to do so. And maybe that's why this all needs to end: me and bitcoin have been a point of contention ever since we launched the new domain. It didn't matter a whole lot when I was running this place like a hobbyist site. Now it's the #1 roadblock between us and survival.

But for all the valid criticisms of bitcoin, one thing is true: I've paid all our costs 100% in bitcoin for 26 some odd months in a row. That resulted in Ad-free, DMCA-free, fast, nearly 99.9% reliable, anonymous hosting. So as a currency, you can't deny bitcoin works exactly as intended and perfectly for our use case. I like the way the site is. I don't really ever want ads on it. I like ignoring the fuck out of DMCAs. Sigh.
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i havent really read the entire issue, excuse me for that. but is this website for sale?
>>6450
If we get down the last 48 hours without hitting our funding, who knows. Better to sell it than let it die completely, I guess?
>>6451
im very interested in buying and willing tk maintain.
>>6452
willing to maintain*
>>6452
And the bidding starts at...???
>>6454
i literally have no idea how much a site like this goes for. maybe pick a starting price?
i do have some money to spend
>>6455
Website value is very subjective and depends on what you plan to do with it.

For instance, some sites regard us as worth $30-40k, some 100k, others up to $2m.


https://www.siteprice.org/website-worth/bbw-chan.nl
https://www.worthofweb.com/website-value/bbw-chan.nl/
>>6457
to basically keep it alive and own it. that would be kind of cool.

i have some money to spend, but not 2 mil.
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>>6449
>>6451
>>6454
>>6457
Barclay, let the site die, at least for a while. Take the time off to focus on yourself and your employment first, then come back when things are stable for you again. Heck, you said the domain is still good for another few months, just redirect it to a static billboard, Google or some place benign for the time being.
It sucks to hear this and to start the year off w/o you or this board, but I'd rather have bbw-chan gone for 3, 6, 24 months than to sell it off to some bozo that's gonna shit it up, DMCA the fuck outta everything to make it profitable and run it into the ground for good. You're the only admin this board had that had actually put time, money, and love into it, sort of like a passionate hobby for you.
But sometimes you've gotta step away from that hobby for a bit to take care of the details of life. Backup whatever configs and data Lynxchan allows; it will be there to pick back up when things are good for you again.
>>6459
thanks for assuming so much.
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>>6459
The more I think about my future, the more of me agrees with what you're saying. I think I was on my 8th, maybe 9th page of SEO research and flailing around trying to get more eyes on the site, just for the slim chance of one of those people jumping through hoops to donate and I just kind of stopped and had an existential moment. I had to ask myself, why am I trying so hard to make this site popular? The only reason I could come up with is: I guess I feel like this 'is' my job a little bit. And that's bad. You shouldn't feel that way about something that is purely for fun. I am taking a backup. If we all just need to take a break for awhile, maybe that's for the best.
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As much as I appreciate what you've done, having to only donate via crypto is inconvenient for alot of us. Not sure I fully understand your reasons for doing it that way, but it is what it is. I get more of the stuff I want and then just bulk downloading the sets myself anyway.
>>6460
Sorry, the bozo comment wasn't directed at you personally. If you can bring this site to its former glory days, awesome!
>>6461
>>6459 is right.
Take down the site temporarily so you can take a break or if you can find someone you trust let them run the site while your gone.
this'll probably be mentioned r/sbbw
>>6448
>>6459

This is definitely a semi-shady transaction but totally feasible; attorneys and other fiduciaries take on completely anonymous clients regularly in order to protect them and their interests. You just need to have it all spelled out in the engagement letter.

As long as you have the attorney acting in a fiduciary capacity, he can't do anything with your money that you forbid him to do. Attorneys manage client trust fund accounts all the time (for example, a real estate transaction). If the agreement is exclusively to buy cryptocurrency and transfer it to the anonymous client, that's more than possible. Hell, for a small cut I'd take on a transaction like that, it's easy money.

All that said, I honestly do believe that you guys are scum and won't donate, haha! Love ya.
are there any alternatives to the /draw/ board if this goes down?
>>6370
this site is illegal as fuck. anyone who's too dumb to respect your anonymity and learn btc is fucking useless.
>>6449
LtBarclay, I still believe that you could monetize this chan with Anonymous Ads. They do not ask for any personal information and they pay in Bitcoin.

https://a-ads.com/
Is there any way we could mine in-browser for the site?
Just let the site die already, it's been obvious for months now trying to keep it running isn't working.
I’d pay 50% of the stated site costs if I were allowed to shitpost

PM me
>>6467
/draw/ was never the best place for this kind of stuff. It was all mostly lifted from DeviantArt, Twitter and Tumblr (before the Tumblrgeddon, of course).
FurAffinity also has a lot of non-anthro art, if that's not you cup of tea.
Some artists have migrated back to Newgrounds, but I don't think that'll last very long because that site sucks major ass (don't @ me).
As the old proverb goes,
all good things must come to an end.
I feel slightly sad
>>6473
>Is there any way we could mine in-browser for the site?
Those kinds of things are getting blocked by A number of them are being blocked by Security Suites now, I'm not sure to what extent, but that might pose a problem.
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>>6479

all good things....indeed.

I'd like to say, "see you in the next life".
>>6367
Here's the thing, /no one/ in this place is social anymore. Our main board literally is literally moderated now in a way that deletes anything that isn't a download or asking for a download. Discussion is deemed 'gossip,' and this place has fallen from a community to a BBW pirate bay. /gen/ exists, but is entirely dead outside of posts like these.

Even then the past few months, there's been a fraction of the content posted compared to less than a year ago. Sad to see it fade out this way.
Thank you for your service, Lt. Broccoli
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I wish I had the money to pay for the site. Does anyone have any bbw discord links? I have plenty of content to share. KIK:Bionicman1300
>>6461
The only problem with that strategy is that if you go offline for a year, come back, try to make the site profitable via ads, and dmca compliance..... well the site traffic quantity might go down signifigantly.

then again maybe losing 90% of the sites visitors is what the site needs? that would in theory make it cheaper to run? any of us still willing to check if bbw-chan exists after a year of it not existing.... are probably die-hard fans?

this might also solve the issue that a lot of morons from reddit are coming over to bbwchan lately who have no idea how chans work and are just needlessly spamming all the boards and threads, not out of malice (like has happened in the past) but just ignorance.

Maybe taking a year off would help clear your head and reduce the cost of the site to the point where it might actually work? I imagine most people willing to donate are in the die-hard fan demographic too. So reducing the popularity of the site with a lengthy break from it.... well... that could be a good idea. I suppose you could even put this month's meager donations towards renewing the domain name. Thus keeping the name in your pocket. If in 3-6 months you lose all hope, well you could always sell the site AFTER it's been offline a while, instead of rushing a sale next week to avoid letting it have any downtime?
>>6485
I actually really agree with this
I'll use my super OG name. If anyone remembers I used to be a mod here maybe 6 or 7 years ago. I've been using the site even longer than that. This place used to be a raunchier kind of Curvage. We discussed things and chatted about the community. I knew that would go to shit when /gen/ was made because it gutted any discourse from /bbw/ else than "repost please."


I think first and foremost for this site to really succeed we need a better way than bitcoin to receive funds and second we need to push for more community like it was of yesteryear.
I read through some of the comments and I agree. If it was another system of donating funds i'll do it. I actually just a got a coin base account and tried to donated but it won't verify my id or account. Also I have the cash app and tried it that way but it won't take the back pic of my id smh. I found many vids on this site that I couldn't get any where else so I say thanks. I really appreciate ppl would share what they have with others. Pls if you have another site your thinking about hosting let me know. I can easily donate 10 dollars a month just off the strength of the content that will be posted.
Adopt dmca and do not post list. Get advertisers.

No point making life more difficult than it needs to be.

Or put it on the back burner for a year or so. No one here will be unable to find their free fix if this place is gone.
I have Bitcoin. I have no problem using it. I've supported this site in the past. Definitely not going to any more. Shitposting latent child molesters like Uknon, nowaya, and the admins and owner that defend them don't deserve any support. The fact that they launch a crusade against furries while insisting loli isn't worthy special scrutiny is telling. If your friends and VIPs are aging German pedophiles, I have no interest in supporting your board.
so are we going to make a substitute for the time being or does everything just die?
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>>6499
>assblasted furshitter BTFO for all eternity by plump lolis
Will everthing be deleted permanantly? if so will there be another bbw chan
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>>6499
The furries wanted their own board and got it so they only have themselves to blame for being kept there instead of /bbwalt/ and the same has been done with the loli threads which have been moved to /bbwalt/. It's one thing to have an issue with me but Nowaya is benign as fuck and would sooner help separate loli from a thread rather than fight over its right to be there so he isn't the type to cause even a single issue for the mods to need to deal with or annoy the posters and besides he hasn't posted here in months.

Why do you have such a massive hateboner for me anyways? I've mostly just been retired to the places that you can hide and not having to bother with its ilk again for around a year and the reason I'm still around is because if I don't stop by myself, I'll stop if the mods and bans are barely a slap on the wrist since it's easy as hell to just go back to posting after the fact; just look at Debulover.

>>6502
>>6502
The current BC total according to the donation page is 0.03489535 [at time of posting]
The current exchange rate between BC to USD is 0.00027 to $1
So 0.033BC = $120

0.03489535BC = $128

This site has met this month's goal. Our niche smut can survive for another month.
>>6505
Woo! Way to go everyone. And I'm thinking about ways for people to just donate without bitcoin but that's only on standby if struggle again next month.

Either way. Proud of you pervs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmfFVduvr7Q
>>6462
I know it's inconvenient. The reason I do it this way is to protect my identity. I have never, not once, exposed my IRL creds to any part of this site: not the domain registration, not the hosting costs, not to the mods, and definitely, most importantly, not the users. I've seen enough of people getting doxxed to know better. Unfortunately, while bitcoin allows you to send money to someone who is anonymous like me, it has the side effect of forcing the sender to confirm their identity to a site or service like coinbase or the Cash App to even get bitcoin. Thus, it stinks of hypocrisy and generally causes quite a bit of understandable consternation. Strange, as it's not like you can just get a paypal account without some amount of verification. All I can say is, if we want ad-free, dmca free hosting: this is how it has to be. If those things or my captaining ability ever becomes not worth it... well... things will change.
>>6464
We made it one more month. But if I've learned anything about asking for donations, it's that you can't rely on them month to month. If we ever don't make it, we'll still be taking the break. Apathy sets in fast.
>>6466
They did though, those scummy bastards.
>>6468
Pretty crass, but that's a fairly good boiling down of the core issue.
>>6472
I will look into this if next month starts getting iffy.
>>6475
Ehhh... nyet.
>>6478
Standard content aggregation, I don't see that as particularly bad thing. Tends to refine content a bit.
>>6482
We tried that for a bit. It didn't really work. I could put it up again, I suppose.
>>6491
A purge would help certainly but that's kind of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. We are starting to get more interest in people being mods in discord (already recruited one) so if you start making it known how you want things to be modded... things might get better.
>>6492
Interesting, maybe I wasn't here during that time. I always remember them being separate. I can kind of see how letting them merge would help with diversity a bit...
>>6498
DMCA? Maybe, if things get dire. DNP? Geeebus why. That was a terrible time.
>>6499
Totally your call man. Appreciate your support in the past. Maybe I just don't browse the boards you're heated about enough, but I just don't see enough of the people you're talking about to be as riled up about them. My fault probably.
>>6502
I've always maintained backups, so even if we go down someday, there's always a chance we bounce back.
>>6503
This is correct, it was requested by multiple people and has become a fairly posted board. Certainly not super busy like some others, but it seems fine to be separated. I really don't see how anons can have grudges against other ones, but again, I'm essentially a lurker, so maybe I just don't have the same view as those "in the trenches".
>>6505
Yes, and I have already paid feb's bill and extended the timer. Thank you everyone who heard the clarion call and stood up. I appreciate it.
Edited last time by admin on 01/20/2019 (Sun) 06:29:44.
>>6508
>I really don't see how anons can have grudges against other ones
Well, Debulover annoyed me so I pushed his buttons and sat back while he self destructed off the site by way of Jess "perma"banning him (she was itching to take me out too but unlike Debu, I backed off like she said) while everyone else would have a grudge from my being blunt about their favorite companies, media, artists, etc, being all shit and/or greedy fucks and with today being the current year of 2019, age of the thinned skins and censorship; it's not really surprising I'm on many peoples shit lists.
the copywritten photos are not removed within 24 hours, my client and myself are prepared to move forward with a claim against all parties involved. Nothing in this letter shall serve as a waiver to any rights or remedies available to the copyright holder with respect to the alleged infringement and all said rights are reserved.



Signed,
Jacob Vivasco,
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Signed,
Jacob Vivasco,
Attorney at law

Vivasco and associates
426 w.Federal, Suite 306
Youngstown, Ohio, 44415
(330) 793-7930

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>>6515
>Contents of this email message
Hey dumbass, this isn't email, it's a message board. You're a shitty lawyer if you can't figure that out.
>copywritten photos
>doesn't say what they are
You sound like a shitty dog bite lawyer.
>>6508
Sorry, new to the party(this thread)
Is there anywhere a donation link? Combed thru the thread and found nothing.
>>6517 Top of the page- click the 'Thank you donators! Want to help save the site next month? Click here!' text line
>>6514
"Do not start sending form letters and having middle-men lawyers threaten us. That won't work. We aren't evil, we're pirates."
>the copywritten photos are not removed within 24 hours
Strike one
>my client and myself are prepared to move forward with a claim
Oh a DMCA claim that's not valid in the country we're hosted in? Good luck with that. Strike two.
>against all parties involved
Which parties? The ones you have no idea who they even are? The ones you're asking for IP addresses of in my private admin email? Strike three.

Find a new line of work my man. You're not quite cut out for this one.
Edited last time by admin on 01/20/2019 (Sun) 20:06:31.
>>6485
>>6492
That is 100% down to the old moderation. When Jess was still around I got banned practically any time I posted anything other than a download link for absolute bullshit reasons like "concern trolling" in a thread where I was defending a model's choice to lose weight. Shit like that really hurt the community aspect. These days it seems like it's getting easier to just have normal discussion (outside of mods sometimes insisting on "sandbagging") but the user base has been trained to have a "content only" focus.
>>6525
Yeah bingo, this place over mods dramatically and it's the funniest/saddest thing. It's a chan board. It's a PORN chan board at that. Expect people to be assholes and of course delete/moderate the obvious offensive things but come on. Can we not have fun in-between downloading stolen porn?
>>6535
>>6525
what?!
there's almost no moderation now, like 99% less than jess did.

I'm not sure if i agreed with anything jess did moderation wise, but she was the only person in the history of the website who was willing to accept/read/then enact on DMCA claims.

TSG I feel was super reasonable on all fronts and I'm a bit sad he left for reasons that were never clear?
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>>6539
>there's almost no moderation now
Scruffy kinda started turning into Judge Dredd before he disappeared.

>but she was the only person in the history of the website who was willing to accept/read/then enact on DMCA claims
Yes but at the same time she was scaring people away from posting because of her rabid feminism way of moderating.

>TSG I feel was super reasonable on all fronts and I'm a bit sad he left for reasons that were never clear
He got pissy over the no mod month (or was it week) that never was but I can see his reason for at least hating that it was advertised as a free for all anarchy fest instead of simply chilling on the bans short of illegal shit and blatant spammers.
>>6541
>she was scaring people away from posting because of her rabid feminism way of moderating.

I honestly think she hurt the board more than any other single thing.
>>6559
Yeah I was here for that too and man it was not a good time. She just kinda was rude while being hostile.
probably 4chan
the truth is, if you want to moderate, your intentions have to be pure, there is no room for agendas, you only invoke consequences when you absolutely must, never use one's power lightly, it always divides when it is used so it better be for a good fucking reason.

politics, personal beliefs, external authorities, and selling out all have no place in the world of the administrator, not the real administrators on usenet you'd get before AOL came along and ruined the internet around 1993...

I wouldn't even acknowledge most of the groups out there unless they have a court order or a lawyer with a case involving or against what I was responsible for. that's where the piratebay guys went wrong, they made fun of their enemies in the copyright cartel and angered them to the point of severe aggravation, they challenged the power of the monied interests and got life ruination as a consequence, the new owners of TBP are smarter and therefore mostly anonymous and keep a low profile.

just a few observations for people who want to run stuff online. speak lightly and carry a big stick. only use it when absolutely necessary.
I love Julies
I've noticed big cuties threads are having even base64 wetransfer links dmca'd within a day.

the guy who runs bigcuties is diligent, but.... almost every other model/site posted on the chan isn't.

I am very optimistic that if bbw-chan started accepting dmca claims and therefore was allowed advertisements.... the main lose would be bigcuties pretty much no one else has the stamina to submit proper dmca claims... and... even as is, he's nuking links so fast it's barely worth not just letting him nuke the posts?

ya know, just in case we don't have more super generous donors coming...
>>6501
Ahh...mods still tolerate your trash baiting, but your response image proves you are a man-child that wants to fuck children.

Not a furry, but I find them far more tolerable than scum like you. Will the mods delete this post? I posted something along these lines earlier, but it was removed. Again, the mods seem to favor and protect turds like you.

...and yeah, Jess as a mod was great. The only people who bitch about her are the toxic pedophile weeaboos that would derail any Western or Axel thread. They would get banned, but some of them kept coming back.

Regardless, tell the pedophiles to post their shit in /alt at the top of every other board like you do for furries, and maybe not white-knight for them when they cunt it up. Do that, I might put more money in.
>>6650
> the main lose would be bigcuties
So really, nothing of value is lost.

I think though the risk of going that route though would be people forcing a DNP list or something.
>>6656
lol What a fag
>>6650
I feel like somebody wished on a monkey's paw.
>>6658
Yeah, about the response I'd expect from a pedophile. In my original post that was deleted, I suggest the original pedophile should go suck start a shotgun. Maybe the moderator that removed it did it because it wouldn't have been realistic to expect people like you to pass a background check. Or maybe your mom won't let you have anything remotely dangerous while you dwell in her basement.

Drink bleach, go play in traffic, slit your wrists, but please, ensure you don't procreate and spread your weeb pedo genes. Life has BTFO'd you and your friend since the day you were born.

In closing, suck a dick, dumbshits!
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>>6559
>>6541

>Jess is the reason site is suffering.

This site wasn't on this level of life support when Jess was around and stopping weeb trash from shitting up every thread that wasn't dedicated to pumpkin-headed anime and child porn.

Jess is gone, site admin beg for help to keep this community alive.

Toxic weebs get free passes by mods and admin, while deleting dissenting opinions or responses.
...and you wonder why no one wants to pay to keep this community alive.
>>6660
>>6661
>weeb
>pumpkin-headed anime
>Toxic weebs
Stop having such disgusting taste and check em'.
>>6661
>This site wasn't on this level of life support when Jess was around
You say this as if she alone prevented that lmao
How do i get an account here? Don't troll me please lol
>>6694

Start a new thread with your full name in the Name field and your credit card in the Subject field to unlock a BBW-Chan Gold account. Be sure to include the expiration date and CVV number or it won't work properly.
ok
>>6363
How big of a server does it take to power this mess. I happen to have a couple servers sitting almost totally empty, they might be up to the challenge.
ATTENTION

Current USD/BTC exchange rate [circa. Tues Feb 19th 2019]
$1 = 0.00026 Bitcoin

Current cost goal
$120 = 0.031 Bitcoin [approx.]

Current site total
$138.10 = 0.03548036 Bitcoin


That's one more month! Despite a lotta nay-saying and inconvenient truth being spread around, this site's still ain't going down just yet.
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>>6525
>>6535
>>6539
Going to have to agree here, there's much less moderation now after TSG and Jess left. Anyone who thinks otherwise has been personally touched by moderation and it *feels* just as intense as it was, but if you look at mod logs (available to anyone from the homepage), you'll see a dramatic drop in total modding. It's still a lot (we get a decent amount of spam still), but it's not nearly as militant.

>>6541
Yea no-mod month really only lasted a few days and we rolled back almost immediately after the gore, but that was the last straw for TSG. I really don't blame him. That was super boner-headed on my part.

>>6731
We currently require at least 100GB of space on a 1000mb/bit unshared line to sport what we have. We could get by on much less if we downsized.

>>6806
Indeed, and I have paid our March bill and extended the timer. Bless you donators.

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