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Perspectives on this Fetish Psychopomp 02/17/2019 (Sun) 07:38:39 Id:c84e31 No. 6765
I dunno about you guys but when it come to this fetish, Im unsure.

Im off the deep end and will enjoy anything from a normal bbw to the higher ends of ssbbw. Regardless of this, I enjoy joking around with friends about this fetish and joking about myself. But theres some problems

Recently, I've been thinking that this fetish is pretty terrible. Yes there is the given that this is a fetish that literally changes someones body and can destroy their internal organs but I mean from a personal perspective. I feel that sometimes its a curse to like something outside the norm. I've given normal/skinny porn plenty of tries and none of it attracts me.
I have a girlfriend that has gained from 180 -210 in the years we've been going out and Im starting to feel guilty about her gaining. She doesn't mind being bigger but she feels that she doesn't have a shape and I feel bad cuz I think its gonna affect her health later on down the line.
There are sometimes that I'll see a pic of an SSBBW like Boberry and think "She's so pretty" following it up immediately with "What the fuck is wrong with me? Why do I like the idea of women being obese?"

TL;DR Y'all ever wish you didn't have this fetish?
You have a preference for bigger women, not a fetish.
>>6766
There's a difference between FAs and feeders though. The former generally just enjoy being with women who got fat naturally whereas feeders encourage their girlfriend's to gain and are not satisfied with them maintaining their current weight.
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You can't help what you like. If you feel like it's interfering with your life, seek out a therapist. Otherwise, just try to channel your fetish through healthy outlets and be communicative with your partner about your feelings.
you can never change or remove your fetish so it's pointless to even think about it. at the end of the day, i'm happy that i prefer a fat woman to a skinny one. to say "dating fat women is easier" is probably incorrect, but we have a lot more options than normal dudes who can't get beyond the fat barrier.i know it probably sucks to be different, but it also makes you unique at the same time.
The way I look at it is this OP.

Lots of people have lots of different fetishes.

Some people have a fetish for smokers.

Some for drinking / drinkers etc.

Lots of things can be harmful to health. Some Olympic Athletes literally have to keep trainning even after they retire due to the fact not doing so could kill them due to stuff like enlarged hearts etc.

This fetish isn't some curse. Don't feel bad because in the end everyone is destroying themselves one way or another in the end and it's peoples own choice to indluge in this stuff.
>>6765
I feel you OP, more often than not I just hate having this fucked up fetish. That's why I don't ever let this shit bleed into my real life and only indulge in fantasies (and I'm even cutting back on those). At least with other strange fetishes, like vore or some other insane shit like that, it's impossible to do it IRL (at least I hope), meanwhile I see women deliberately destroying their bodies and guys fattening up their girlfriends into immobility without any regards for the consequences and all I feel is disgust. Like, are these people only capable of thinking with their dicks and pussies? Do they only live in the moment without ever considering the future? I mean why else would you have your entire lifestyle revolve around what makes you cum? It's terrifying and disgusting, knowing that you have something in common with those people.
Sometimes I feel conflicted about this fetish/preference but I don’t think you can help what you like. I found out about this fetish/preference through a newspaper article about a plus size beauty pageant called Miss Cicciona when I was about 12. I think my attraction to fat women existed before I saw this article and I believe it is mostly out of my control. I don’t really know if I’d rather be attracted to normal women. It’s kind of 50-50, I like fat women but I don’t know what it’s like not to.
My girlfriend has also put on weight since we started dating (not by my encouragement, we haven’t really discussed that and I don’t want her to). However, she doesn’t really like her weight gain and calls herself miss piggy among other things. I think her weight gain is sexy but at the same time I understand how she feels and just want her to be happy with herself.
I think porn really modifies your sexual tastes and desires. I think without it, I wouldn’t be into half the depraved shit that I am (weight gain, health issues, mobility issues and stuffing until vomiting etc). For example, I was watching the newest Boberry video in which she talks about how she travels while being supersize. I skipped forward because I was bored but I assume she was talking about how she was on a beach and that if she fell over while walking back to her area, she wouldn’t be able to get up again. At the time I thought it was hot but looking back on it I think it’s a little fucked up.
Sometimes when I’m with one of my mates we have a chat, I show him some fucked up shit and we have a laugh about it. I mean with the whole porn thing, you’re not in control of what these women do. You don’t control them and it’s their life. In the words of Ron Swanson “if you want to eat garbage, balloon up to 600lbs and die of a heart attack at 43, you can”. However, doing that with someone you are supposed to care about is a different story and probably shows you don’t really care for that person. I think my limit in real life is probably 250lb, but I’m happy to rip a wank to someone between there and 800lbs depending on how they are built. Also defining someone’s sexual attractiveness on there weight is also a little bit fucked up.
Sorry for the words. Would love to hear other opinions. /Gen/ is mint.
>>6787
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Bro, I'm so happy to know that I'm not the only one who feels this way. Long story short, I LOVE big girls, and the idea of feeding them, making them happy, or even making them bigger puts a degenerate smile on my face. BUT, morally, I feel as though I could never do that to someone, especially if it's someone I truly care about. I feel you man, that desire is there, but when its an actual person in front of you, it becomes a whole different situation. Parents and friends wonder why I don't have a girlfriend and this is why, I can't figure out what I want. Reptile Brain says "Big Fat GOOD" actual human being brain says "You shouldn't hurt them, and wanting to do that to someone is selfish and dangerous"
Best of luck my guy, hopefully knowing you're not alone helps a bit
Compared to my other fetishes – being vore, pregnancy, inflation, and popping feederism is the tamer fetish I have so I don’t mind having it, I’d rather get rid of vore, inflation and popping. It’s hard to put my finger on it, I love seeing women consume a lot of food/drinks, rubbing their bellies, or playing with their bellies I want to feed a woman, rub her belly, and listen to her belly digest food but at the same time these aren’t normal thoughts and that’s what gets to me the most. What also conflicts me is that I’m so far down this fetish rabbit hole that I can’t fap to normal stuff, oddly enough some time ago when I was with a girl she’d blab about all the stuff she wants to do to me all relatively normal stuff but I had no interest but played along for her sake, eventually somehow when I thought about all the stuff she told me I got a boner but I had no urge to fap rather it was an urge to physically do those things to her so I’m still not sure what the hell that was but that’s a topic for another day. As much on an outcast I feel with this fetish I don’t hate it, as weird I feel having these thoughts I still want them, I have no reason to be complacent, but I am.
I can’t say I’m into gaining, it doesn’t interest me – there are occasions where I look at before and after and I say “noice” but nothing beyond that, with that said the community’s behavior does worry me and irritate me mainly the excessive need for someone to get bigger like their current size isn’t good enough they must get bigger, the pressure some people put on the feedees is just disgusting, there isn’t much more to say because I share similar thoughts as >>6777. Personally I would like to meet a big woman who loves to eat.
i don't feel quite as much guilt considering i don't really have much of a thing for the actual act of feeding. i just like big girls for their curves, the softness etc. the idea of a girl who just likes being big herself instead of me forcing it onto her is much hotter to me. sure, there's health concerns whether i want to exacerbate them or not. but like, big tits give girls back pain and yet you don't see anyone crying about the health concerns about that. the fact that this specific kink and only this specific kink is held under so much health-related scrutiny does come across as a bit disingenuous to me
The whole "body acceptance" movement is a lightning rod since it tends to conjure up images of SJWs or 500 lb shut-ins on food stamps.

These days I'm more nervous of being drawn into a debate than being viewed as some kind of deviant.
>>6815
yes, some of thous NAAFA or how they cal emself spokes girls are really nutcase, deam they are on lvl with Joseph Goebbels. But they are pretty
I'm very vanilla when it comes to my bbw preferences. I'm not in to any of the gaining/feeding/eating fetish aspects, I just like shapely big women. The only thing that gets me off regarding fat girls are their size and shape. That being said, if I could change my preference I'd do it in a heartbeat no question. It would open up the dating pool considerably. I'd want to change for that reason alone. I wish I could change but I can't. It is what it is. Could be worse I guess.
Don't think too much. Like Captain Dissillusion says Love with your heart use your head for everything else. Fuck with your cock. There's nothing better than banging a big fat woman whos bent over from behind with you spreading her fat ass, and banging in between the poundage of fat. Her belly is nice and round, and even rounder when she bent over. Just as you are about to fire your load you tense up every single muscle of your body, hips forward deep as you can, she moans, and let your orgasm pulsate through your entire body for 30 seconds.
Consider it as something that you need to do with the right person and in moderation. It’s okay to find gay people attractive. It’s okay to find VERY fat people attractive. Some people spend their life savings traveling or on expensive hobbies together. Kudos to them. If you and your girl find happiness living out being fat and happy, kudos to you. Just be true to yourself and respectful of others.
Yeah I don't know this is a tough one. I guess I'm more moderate or mild than some, I really only like gaining to realistic limits and general fatness. I've never really been into vore, crushing, shame, etc. I also can appreciate women of thinner body types (though generally at least 10-30 lbs more than 'average' is greatly preferred) and have dated such. But it is definitely a preference. Also, I write and draw in the community.

My early works were fevered and wildly unrealistic, and perhaps the purest in terms of 'just enjoying' being in the fetish. Now it's like...I dunno, I'm not burning out on it but taking a different view. Now my works focus on the radical dark side of the fetish. One story is about a girl accidentally cannibalizing her friends, and my whole intent was to make the reader reflect on the story givin em a big ol boner and saying 'but my mortal soul...' and shaking their heads. But that didn't happen.

My most 'critcally' acclaimed (lol. it's smut) story is about a subfetish I don't even actually have, it was commissioned. It ends with a downer ending (not really tied to the weight gain occurring in it, but it was a portrait of reckless desire and thinking of the now). Now that I'm drawing more, I see the expressions on all my girls' faces are those of dawning horror at the prisons their bodies have become. It's like, on some level I'm trying to 'wake my readers up', to wake myself up. But that'll never happen because I'm just attracting an audience that fetishes THAT aspect of this overall fetish. I bet there's a subfetish of this fetish, that's ABOUT hating this fetish.

But now I can't stop drawing or writing because I'm getting okay at it and my 'good guy' stuff gets no attention, wheras this stuff gets a lot and it makes me feel validated. I know that sounds sarcastic but it's sadly not. So I keep going. I still like the fetish, but now it's just different, I don't know how to explain it. Plus, while there's not a goldmine to be found in it, I've made some extra $ from it and that's always nice as well. So...I don't really know what I'm trying to say with this tirade, just wanted to share.

No but yeah I definitely agree that this fetish is most kosher when played with in the realm of fantasy. This stuff is dangerous. I personally like my irl companions 300 max, and that's if they want to. Like I said, to me at least, I like my ladies any way they're shaped.

Except apple. Why is there such a thing as apple shape. Really, who is it helping.
>>6765
this fetish is no doubt a curse on us for something our ancestor did, or some sin we committed in a previous life.

the attraction itself is fine, but it means that longterm relationships to us that are both romantically and sexual satisfying require are a constant balancing act that usually either results in us constantly feeling guilt, regret, or both. Feelings aside, gaining weight, to even a "moderate" level by most of our standards is incredible unhealthy and life changing for our partners, and so it ultimately becomes a balancing act between us trying to have a long happy life with our long term partners, and making sure their healthy, but also having some sexual pleasure from the relationship.

TBH this fetish has given me a lot of sympathy for pedophiles, i understand what it's like to be torn up inside about what you enjoy and what you know is right
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>>6853
oh please. A centuries old curse? Affinity with pedophiles?

Getting a subtle feel here that you're not who you claim to be.
>>6853
>TBH this fetish has given me a lot of sympathy for pedophiles
..what

consensually feeding an adult woman or just appreciating one with a larger body is nothing like taking advantage of a child
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>>6853
There was a time when men were men and stood by what they enjoyed; that time has gone down the crapper! You're adults crying over liking adult women a certain way even if you have her blessing in these messed up times where drag queens, pedophiles, trannies, communism, open relationships, one sided open relationships, terrorism, whatever degenerate thing you can think of has been pushed towards being okay or are being pushed towards being okay for Christ sakes! I don't even know what to even call people like you since a child would just hide it under their mattress and babies wouldn't care beyond the taste of the tit. I'd call you a woman but even they have far bigger balls than whatever you are.
Prime examples of why the Democrats aren't totally wrong about legalizing post birth abortions.
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>>6857
Alexa, play "Anything Goes"
>>6857
aren't fat girls a part of this degeneracy conservatives are always crying about
>>6861
As long as you don't try to get money from the government to sit on your ass all day and grow it out even more while using peoples taxes to fix any issues that may cause for you, they won't give a damn.
>>6864
explain the online right's fixation on hating fat people then. this bitter whining about muh lazy welfare queens seems pretty incompatible with fat admiration anyway. being a feedee requires laziness and dependence
>>6867
we already have a politics thread, guys.
>>6868
Because even if they weren't right and were actually center or left, you'd still see them as right because they've spoken out against something they don't like but you do.

>>6868
Not only is this a thread about whining about your fetish, it has been remade a dozen times over so I don't really give two shits and am inclined to tell you to go fuck yourself because discussion in general can veer off at times.
>>6867
is this a right/left issue? a lot of people just hate fat people
>>6870
lol no, fatness is very often pathologically associated with sjw-types and shit on because of that. alt-right pundits like milo and blaire white have excessively bitched about fat people. don't gaslight me for things other people have already mentioned in this thread lol
>>6870
and the general ideological contempt that the right has for laziness is obviously antithetical to fat admiration, which requires a lazy fat person somewhere in the mix. maybe you should think about these contradictions within yourself instead of going on sanctimonious /pol/ rants and gaslighting me for saying blatantly obvious things
>>6855
I mean in the sense that, with constantly have to play a fine line between safe practice and sexual fantasy in terms of weight gain, similarly pedophiles have to exist with an uncontrolled sexual attraction to children, and have to play a line between safety giving themselves sexual release, and not just straight up traumatizing a child
>>6874
Fatties have the mental capacity to consent.
Children do not.

Stop trying to conflate two entirely different things.
>>6874
Holy shit—totally not the same. Like zero percent. Two grownass adults enjoying something together is EXACTLY OPPOSITE to a lonely man preying on innocent kids

Downvote this please
>>6874

OK like seriously dude .. that's different play
Really, some of faties probably can be exploited to weight gain and whole feedee feeder relationship is pretty dark zone with a loots of potential harm. BUT nothing near child molesting. But I really thenk you man, recently i ben feeling kinda low, but now I realize that its OK still I can be something far worser. Hey I dont suck ...that much
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>>6879
>>6881
retards pedophiles don't exist to prey and molest children and some sort of destiny with their life, a solid 90% will never even engage in physical activity with a child, but that's part of what i mean. They have to both be able to exist as human beings with some sexual release, but not cross the line where they are doing something that find morally wrong, yes, even pedophiles recognize pedophilia is wrong. Let me put it like this, for some like me with specifically a weight gain fetish, pushing someone to the point of totally immobility, is equal to that of a pedophile kidnapping and raping a child. As much as it might bring us sexual pleasure to fantasize about doing, we both understand how totally morally bankrupt something like that would be
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BBW stands for big beautiful windmill and everybody wants to be Don Quixote.

>>6882

oh well, at least you're constructing a cohesive argument, and not trying to explain to me why fat women caused the fall of Rome or whatever.
>>6882
ok. feeding a girl, even to the point of immobility, despite being unhealthy, still isn't as bad or the same at all as taking advantage of a child. feedees consensually seek out being fed. i'm pretty sure they usually understand the risks. in fact, the health risks can even be part of the fetish for some feedees and feeders. there's no correlation whatsoever. none of us are luring skinny girls into our vans and then forcibly stuffing them with candy til they're immobile. the fact that you even made the connection between the two in your head just makes me question your fantasies honestly
>>6874
>>6882
I can only speak for myself when I say this. Is it morally wrong to gain weight into immobility? A better question is it okay to stop someone from doing something obviously dangerous even if they enjoy it? It's easy to have the moral high ground and say "Yes!" but that's from your perspective what about the person harming themselves? They would say "No! What right do you have to tell me what to do? I like doing this!" They have a point don't you agree?

I get what you mean - fetishes with morally grey lines but that is a bad comparison - taking a kid and forcing them to please you and two consenting adults doing something like weight gain (
In my opinion the health risks of gaining weight to immobility out weighs the benefits) to please each other is crazy different, I'm not even sure how you think a comparison like that can be made.
>>6872
If Milo speaks for the right, then Antifa, who beat on Mexicans and called them racist terms, speaks for the left.
>>6873
And yet they're teaming up with the lesbians whereas in the past they would hang them.

>>6884
Holy fuck, he made us agree on something
>>6887
>And yet they're teaming up with the lesbians

Kapos can be very useful.
Yup
>>6887
if milo, blaire white, jordan peterson, ben shapiro et cetera don't speak for the right then who does? antifa punching a mexican (or whatever you're talking about) isn't an expression of the left's ideology anyway. it'd be like me saying waddling around with tiki torches is a fundamental tenant of the right because some of them did it this one time. we're talking about worldviews here
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>>6893

>if milo, blaire white, jordan peterson, ben shapiro et cetera don't speak for the right then who does?

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell? Chief Justice John Roberts? The editors of the National Review, Wall Street Journal and Weekly Standard? Ron Paul? Pundits who actually have shows on mainstream broadcast networks rather than Youtube? The sitting President of the United States?

Seriously dude, there's a lot more to politics than e-celebs and their clickbait opinions. Yes, you can find examples of right wing clickbait which uses "lazy fat people" as shorthand for American degeneracy. You can also find plenty of left wing propaganda made by skinny organic vegan types which uses "fat guy in a business suit" as shorthand for capitalist greed. (IRL fat leftists are often very frustrated with the fact that fatness is still considered a symbol of capitalism, even though in actual American society it's the poor who are much more likely to be fat.)

None of this has anything to do with actual politics. What does "a conservative Youtuber made fun of fat people" have to do with the normalization of legal status for DACA recipients, or the merits of various technologies for climate change mitigation, or the repeal of the SALT property tax credit, or whether America should get involved in the latest Middle Eastern clusterfuck? Why should I form my opinions on these complex and controversial issues based on what some e-celeb says about the body type I happen to get a boner for?
I feel like people now a days have goldfish memory and Im living in a twilight zone.
Back in 2013/14 there was the whole shtick about Mayor Bloomberg and the soda drink tax/size cap thing. Cons, being the way they are got all ruffled about it and proceeded to rant about bureuacrats determining your cup size, the bill didn't pass.

The thing people need to realize about the Repubs is that on the issue of health it's considered a personal responsibility. This means not only they don't want socialized healthcare (despite most of the West having that) but it also means that you being fat isn't the governments business.

All this looks tame however when compared to the Fat activist types. Pic somewhat related
>>6895
>Mayor Bloomberg and the soda drink tax/size cap thing.

Bad example. Bloomberg was, and still is to an extent, an embarrassed Republican.

Hell, New York's "Independent Democrats" are literally just Republicans in the state house who ran as Dems in order to distance themselves from the sinking ship.
>>6897
What about Jim Kinney and the Philli soda tax that's destroying everything but the reason it was made for?
Democrats are fraudulent and warmongering.

I don't think anyone here is disputing that; rather the fraudulent claim that the modern GOP is somehow friendlier to fatties (see:
Trump's remarks re Miss Universe pageant), pot smokers (Jeff Sessions), gays (Mike Pence), or what have you. It's a thin coat of paint over an old culture war platform.
>>6895 Absolutely true. This is Bizarro World. Until a few years ago, the American left was very anti-fat. They were the ones always talking about the obesity epidemic and trying to control what people ate. The people I knew in college who were the most anti-fat, all of them are on the left now. Even the right-wing women I know, on average, are fatter than the left-wing women. (And nicer too.) But I live in the South so we're a few years behind NYC and LA.

I lean libertarian and most people would consider me more right than left, and I hate the "alt-right" more than anything.

Back to the main topic: I wish I liked thin girls and didn't like fat girls. I'd love to watch any TV show or movie and think the women are hot. I love 60s and 70s rock music, but I swear there were no hot women at all back then! I wish I could talk about hot chicks with other guys without going to porn sites. Things are getting worse now that feminists co-opted size acceptance and ruined it. I'd be deeply in the closet if I hadn't dated fat women in the past. And I hate porn but I keep coming back to it. I don't know what's worse - feeling like I'm the only guy in the world who likes fat chicks, going to porn sites to feel like less of a pervert for liking fat chicks, or people IRL thinking I'm some sort of feminist wimp because I like fat chicks. I'll take being a pervert over being a wimp. I like to feel more like a man. The right porn makes me feel like more of a man. Everything else makes me feel like less of one.
>>6894
uh...most of the right doesn't use fat people as an example of "american degeneracy". all the people i listed there are american exceptionalists actually. more often, fatness on the right is associated with sjws and general liberal decadence. honestly it seems pretty disingenuous that you guys don't know what i'm talking about. another guy in this very thread earlier mentioned the same phenomena. i don't know how many times i've seen someone on the chans post bbw porn only for some troll to reply with some tyrade about muh tumblr landwhales or whatever. it's a very common phenomena nowadays and the e-celebs i mentioned (and more) i'd say are mostly responsible for normalizing it.

that little bit you did on how fatness relates to specific policy seems disingenuous too with how much the right is hyperfocused on identity nowadays. i don't see talk about tax credits on any online right-wing space. it's all about muh niggers and jews like always.

i'm just confused as to why right-wingers on here feel the need to go on off-topic rants and lay out their entire ideology like this. just seems like they're alienating themselves from their peers.
>>6909
>people IRL thinking I'm some sort of feminist wimp because I like fat chicks.
case and fucking point lmao
>>6910 Those aren't the right-wing spaces I've seen. But I don't go to alt-right sites. I've never seen, say, Wall Street Journal or National Review bash black people, Jews, or fat people. If they did it was a long time ago. Most of the political sites I go to are libertarian. The alt-right hates me the same way a lot of the more extreme leftists do.

There's a strong connection between me liking fat girls and me not being left-wing. I pretty much don't date left-wing women unless they're black or Hispanic, because most left-wing women are assholes. Yes, I know, "sassy" "bossy" "bitch" etc. Let's call it what it is, being an asshole. I'm not a feminist and I don't want my taste in women associated with feminism. I'd rather have nothing than have the Tumblr SJW crowd.

I'm confused why you have to bash the entire right-wing and consider all of us a bunch of racists in every post. But this is a *chan so I don't expect much.
>>6908
And none of them have yet to push through laws specifically targeting fatties, hippies, or the gay community and instead has made hemp products legal and haven't came in cracking heads open in states that made pot legal, there hasn't been any recent major pushes to make gay marriage illegal again, and Kavanaugh who the Dems tried to destroy ended up siding with them on abortion. You can make the argument that a lot of them are playing a waiting game but that shows that they at least still have the ability to tell what the people want and give them what's reasonable while the left has gone insane and has started forcing whatever deranged thing they can think of down our throats while their few with any sense are trying to get them to cool the fuck down.

>>6910
>how much the right is hyperfocused on identity nowadays
Okay, now I know you're bullshitting me.

>>6909
>people IRL thinking I'm some sort of feminist wimp because I like fat chicks
Are you a skinny little dude with a thick beard and/or mustache?

>>6913
>I pretty much don't date left-wing women unless they're black or Hispanic, because most left-wing women are assholes
>black women
>not assholes
Is it just Yankee black women that are assholes?
>I'm confused why you have to bash the entire right-wing
He gets off to it.
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The Democrats can definitely be warmongering.
But it wasn't the goddamned democracts that started the war in Iraq and Afghanistan we're still fighting

How has the left gone insane, what laws have they passed that oppress you lol? When the right has control of every branch of government except for the house and we're ruled by a literal robber baron that's looting the country and expropriating wealth from the shrinking middle class

You're stuck in some like 80s version of masculinity that worships strongmen like putin or trump

I mean I think it's more masculine to fuck some sarcastic fat feminist that has agency and a good education and a big ass.
I don't want somebody that's gonna be super submissive, that's pretty boring

Look at the person championing traditional gender roles, Mr. Jordan Peterson. Some of the stuff he writes is interesting but he doesn't seem to me like he's very secure in his masculinity. Is he a male role model to emulate?

Not saying traditional masculinity is all bad. Like that's where those feminists go too far maybe. I mean I think it's good to know how to drive a stick shift and shoot a gun and not cry to people about your feelings. But there's like 4000 years of bullshit in masculinity that we don't necessarily need to bring forward into the future
I've known some good Libertarians too, I've read my rothbard and hayek. I saw ron paul speak once.
But the reality is most of them end up serving the interests of gigantic corporations instead of the liberty of the free individual
>>6910

>i don't know how many times i've seen someone on the chans post bbw porn only for some troll to reply with some tyrade about muh tumblr landwhales or whatever.
>i don't see talk about tax credits on any online right-wing space. it's all about muh niggers and jews like always.

You're proving my point here. Real world issues which are currently at stake in Congress and the courts will affect the lives and jobs of tens of millions of people who've never looked at a chan or listened to e-celebs. Are you really saying that stuff doesn't matter because REAL politics is about what some anonymous trolls are saying on Chinese cartoon imageboards? This says more about you and your browsing habits than it does about real-world politics.

Quick, without looking it up on Wikipedia, who's the House representative for your congressional district? Who's your rep in the State Senate (or whatever they call the legislative body in your state)?

>the right doesn't use fat people as an example of "american degeneracy"... more often, fatness on the right is associated with sjws and general liberal decadence

What's the difference between "degeneracy" and "decadence"?
>>6919
that other right-wing cotton guy who went off-topic in the first place sure as shit wasn't talking about tax credits and state representatives lol. literally my entire point here is that all this shit is fake, petty idpol squabbling and i'm sick of seeing it on fuckin bbw porn imageboards

>What's the difference between "degeneracy" and "decadence"?
the part that you cut out in your greentext lol. i think most conservatives see the degeneracy/decadence they perceive as some kind of liberal infection that very recently overtook our glorious nation. my point was that most rightwingers certainly aren't critical of degeneracy as it relates to american identity. the vast majority of them are american exceptionalists and the ones who pretend they aren't usually end up sucking trump's dick to own the libs anyway
>>6917
What about Arab Spring? The fact that we bombed and put troops in more countries during the Obama administration than the Bush admin? Remember when the Democrats in Congress voted in party line to authorize and support the military actions against Libya and Syria? Slave trade is a thing in Libya again. Syria, well, you can't really pin that one on Gee Dubs. Nice try, though!
>>6936
t. didn't read his first sentence
>>6909
>the American left was very anti-fat. They were the ones always talking about the obesity epidemic and trying to control what people ate. The people I knew in college who were the most anti-fat, all of them are on the left now

While I'm not American, this is how I remember it too, even here in Canada.
>>6936
"The great thing about Democrats is they act just like Republicans when they're in charge." -Homer Simpson
>>6942
The thing about the left side is that most of them prefer big gov
This is obviously leading to more restrictions and regulations all the way into private lifes..

Funniest thing is the incorrect use of the word liberal.
The only liberal aspect might be towards non hetero people and all that compared to the right side.. Other than that there's not a lot liberal ideology behind the scenes..

As a libertarian I can't really side with any of the two too much, but I tend to prefer the small state ideas in general..
>>6937
I did. Just confused as to why he's so upset about Iraq and Afghanistan, and not the multitude of other conflicts that are still going. Honestly, Iraq wouldn't be the shit show it is if it weren't for meddling in Syria, and 'ending the war' by pulling out and leaving a power vacuum for the Jihad Abroad Team Hillary goons we armed and trained.
The way I look at things is IRL I prefer girls at max maybe 250lbs while porn & wank material is closer to 500lbs.

This is the key importance with differing fantasy from reality which unfortunately for the vast majority of people in regards to fetishes...or anything really in regards to Western "Civ" is practically taboo.

I find women who are too thin to be unattractive or unfeminine tbh as they lack any breasts or asses most of the time. However IRL Landwhales at 300-500lbs tend to fall in the "Stupid, Asshole, or Crazy" spectrum of things.

If she wants to gain more power to me if she wants to lose I'm not going to stop her.

As the old saying goes: "Truth hurts"

>>6921

On the degeneracy and decadence line there is actual evidence for that. Considering suicide and overall life expectancy in most western countries is starting to snowball.

Not only that but overall obesity, drug usage, alcoholism are on the rise as well.

But of course this is a fetish board so any concepts of standards, basic morality, or objective reality is responded by a la Idiocracy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wJpdA-LE3o

Now you might give me flak for saying this shit while being on here but at least there is admittance of the problem(s)
>>6919
>What's the difference between "degeneracy" and "decadence"?

Decadence is overindulgence or ignoring the basic structures of health either personal or societal because you have the ability to for the moment.

while Degeneracy is participating or allowing behaviors that overall rots the basics of personal or societal health.

Decadence would be living in mcmansions and driving needlessly expensive cars

Degeneracy would be snorting cocaine, stuffing your face until you need a scooter until you get to a toilet, cutting off your dick because your biochemicals are out of whack and the "society" you live indulges in every whim of the mentally ill or retarded because it makes people feel good.
>>6884
Well to a certain degree there is the issue of psychological manipulation as I've read a few threads and heard a few personal accounts myself.

The girls most at risk for it are those who either have some mental issue/quirk or low self-esteem to one extent or another.

I mean the whole fetish of feederism is based around eating disorders and codependency.
>>7171
ok. pretty sure 99% of feeders will stop if the feedee wants to stop gaining. not sure why you're acting like this is some illusion-shattering hot take
>>7172
>Decadence is overindulgence or ignoring the basic structures of health either personal or societal because you have the ability to for the moment.
sounds an awful lot like being a feedee to me
>while Degeneracy is participating or allowing behaviors that overall rots the basics of personal or societal health.
not sure why or how the latter is separate from the former
>Decadence would be living in mcmansions and driving needlessly expensive cars
>Degeneracy would be snorting cocaine, stuffing your face until you need a scooter until you get to a toilet, cutting off your dick because your biochemicals are out of whack and the "society" you live indulges in every whim of the mentally ill or retarded because it makes people feel good.
the former isn't inherently different from the latter. it just sounds like you're saying decadance is degeneracy that you are personally ok with and don't care about the consequences of, whilst "degeneracy" is when societal stuff happens that you personally don't like
>>7173
obviously manipulation CAN be a part of it. and it stemming from issues like self-esteem in these big women probably isn't helped by people like you who, on the very forums about them, cry about how degenerate they are.

and like i said way earlier, i'm not a feeder. so this doesn't personally apply to me at all anyway
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right now decadence or degeneracy is anything that the Right doesn't like. Anything that's different from the traditional imagined stoic values of our grandfathers or the grandfathers of our culture

it's a seductive concept and you can use it to explain a lot of history and the rise and fall of like different civilizations

I think there's a grain of truth in the fact that luxury and abundance allows you to get slack and relax the discipline that your depression era grandfathers had. And then the barbarians from the mountains or the plains come and kill you because you didn't keep up your fortifications

But who can say what's degeneracy and what's evolution, like a useful adaption? Clinging to the old values and being inflexible can also get you killed, look at Cato. I think it's unclear and that you should never be swayed by like invented terms imo
>>7206
Some would theorize it's the natural transition of societies over time.In the early years theres a host of traditional values which lead to the establishment of the society but as society experiences success those values wither and die.
The gradual loss of those values then begin the slow decline of empire and then once empire falls it is reborn anew through values and discipline.
TLDR
-Strong men create good times.
-Good times create weak men.
-Weak men create bad times.
-Bad times create strong men.
>>7207
if you're implying fat women and fat admirers are a part of these bad times then you're calling yourself a weak man. otherwise i have no idea why this is relevant

and like that other anon said, those traditional values can be your downfall anyway so that doesn't seem like a particularly useful mantra. probably better to go with something a bit more nuanced
>>7206
>right now decadence or degeneracy is anything that the Right doesn't like

Vastly disparate civilizations in world history have had fairly analogous standards of moral degeneracy. It's pretty simple - it's bad and dumb to be a crazy drunk, violent, thief, only focused on casual sex and end up catching and spreading venereal diseases, and so on.

If a culture has no moral standards beyond maybe "don't kill/rape directly" it deserves to die.
>>7210

when I go home from work, tired, pissed off, angry and frustrated from all thous pis-ants, lefties an degenerates who actually making my job harder. There is nothing more relaxing to fuck mi fat wife. Is this making me weake degenerate. Seriously I dont crashing people with mi bluecolar 6.wheeled friend JUST because the modern society see this as crime, ok kinda psycho but trust me nothing is more annoying when you need to repair hundreds of meters of cable and your path is obstructed by degenerated millennial wane be intellectuals whoa openly laughing into your face just because you haws tools in your hands and that making them beater people. It so sad to se all thous young generations glued to theyrs iPhones with full faces of ecofreindlines and tolerance yet they do nothing to saw planet NOTHING really and they are first who will spit at your rights for simply hawing different ideas ... what wer we writing about
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>>7306
I think morality is important, but inevitably you bring your own particular cultural judgements to it.
Like is it really for you to say what cultures deserve to die? Maybe it is for 'god' or evolution or the material universe to decide that
I don't think moral judgements are simple at all but I do have a lot of respect for people that follow a moral code
Going back to the original topic:

1) No, I don't feel guilty about being attracted to fat women. Human beings should be free to do whatever they want with their own bodies. There are plenty of women that like to eat and choose to be fat.

My SO likes food, plain and simple. When she wanted to try to lose weight, I helped her. We went to the gym together, and I didn't buy her snacks (or at least reminded her that she'd asked me not to.) When she got sick of dieting and put some of that weight back on, I didn't give her a hard time. She's an adult and is free to do what she wants with her body... and what she usually wants to do is eat and be lazy! If I start telling her what she can and can't eat, then I'm being controlling, and that's not healthy in a relationship.

That's the thing right there. If you're manipulating people, controlling what they eat, etc, then that's bad. If you're just dating people who want to eat, there's nothing to be guilty about.

2) If I didn't have this sexual preference, I probably wouldn't be engaged to my SO, who is a wonderful human being. I imagine it would be difficult to look past 295 pounds for her sparkling personality, if one wasn't attracted to bigger bodies, but I legitimately found her to be physically beautiful and a wonderful person at the same time. In that way, this preference has opened me up to a wonderful relationship. It's not worth me wondering how my life would've been without it, because it doesn't matter. I have the preference. It is what it is.

3) In fact, because of my support for my SO mentioned in point 1, she actually managed to get herself down from 295 pounds to about 240, though she eventually rebounded back up to 275. Her weight loss didn't bother me a bit, since my preference range is from like 170 upwards. Her rebound didn't bother me a bit, because I like bigger women anyway. Even if she surpassed her original weight and went over 300, I'd have no reason to feel guilty, though I don't think it's likely that she ever will.

At the end of the day though, she's actually thinner because of me, and we both get a happy, loving relationship out of the deal! Why should I feel guilty about that?

4) You said yourself that your GF doesn't mind carrying extra weight. That's the end of it, as far as I'm concerned. She's allowed to do whatever she wants with her body. You're not telling her what to do, she's just eating an excess amount of calories and gaining weight is the natural consequence. If she has health issues, that's her own problem as an individual.

Unless you're manipulating her, or sneaking calories in her food, there's nothing to be guilty about here. You've got a GF you're attracted to, and she seems to be happy with herself. You're doing some things right here, anon. Enjoy your life!
>>6769
feeders are weird, and I don't like 'em. The thought my qt 350lb gf stuffing her face all day with shitty processed food makes me queasy.
>>6765
I look at it like this OP; I'm not interested in going into a relationship with the intention of making this girl fatter.

Obviously, if I'm in a relationship with a woman that I truly love and care for and she's obese, then the question of making some lifestyle changes should come up, because I don't want her to have an elevated risk of a heart attack or whatever.

But if she's going to lose weight, the decision should be hers and hers alone. I'm a little on the fence regarding body positivity, but I'm certainly no fan of "fat shaming" or compelling someone into losing weight, at least not in most circumstances. I've heard people make the argument that it's immoral to date fat women, UNLESS you are going into that relationship with the intention of helping your partner lose weight.

I mean, this responsibility that has sort of been thrust onto me really kinda sucks. Like, am I the fat chick messiah, just going from one partner that I find attractive, and then blue balling myself and bringing them down to some healthy BMI?

I think there argument was that I was "enabling" an unhealthy lifestyle by choosing women based on the fact that they were obese, which seems pretty unfounded. Obviously, if I was a feeder, they may have had a point, but currently, I just find fat women more attractive. There are a lot of health issues associated with being overweight. But I think most overweight people in society are aware of this, and they continue to live these lifestyles anyway. I am also pretty much exclusively attracted to obese women, so my options are to go through my life sexually unsatisfied, or I deal with this hand that I've been dealt and try not to be repentant about it.
>>7418
honestly the "glorifying obesity" thing is just retarded when applied to non-feeder FAs. if obesity is so awful and debilitating then having ONE person in your life that gives you affection isn't going to matter much one way or another. she was fat whether you were there or not and being healthy has nothing to do with whether or not you should get the d so what's even being glorified here? at best she's just being treated the same as any other girlfriend
>>6765
I don't think many people are going to argue that it's a definite health risk. Some people are willing to take that health risk, be it a bad habit or due to job requirements. However, if the only pay off is to gratify a sexual fetish by just you, I'm gonna go with a hard pass, mang. If you are concerned with your girlfriend's well being, then I would encourage you to encourage her to lose the weight, for you are correct in that being overweight poses a threat to her health as she ages. Simple as that.
>>7421

it's kind of sexist too when you think about it. it's like treating a woman like she has no mind of her own and is like a child who has to be protected from bad influences.
>>7425
Disagree. Not healthy ofcourse but it's not your life. If someone feels happy the way they are pestering them and constantly pressuring them to lose weight is only going to annoy them. If they already get that from friends and family do they really need their BF to come and save them from the dreaded deathfat?
>>7415
>>7426
>SO
>X human being
>sexist

Really pulling out all the numale buzzwords here I see
>>7430
I'd agree, its a personal choice, people are going to do what they want at the end of the day. However, I wouldnt push someone towards a path that negatively effects their health either. Would you encourage someone to smoke, drink, or do drugs, just because you derived sexual pleasure from it? Not trying to come off as Mister Goodbody here either, considering I do all three of those things, but no one is encouraging me to do these things. My train of thought is that if you deeply care about someone and wish to maximize potential time spent with this person, encouraging or indifference to bad health habits isnt helping that cause. Also, what one finds comfortable now, does not translate to comfort later when your body starts to degrade and the health problems start piling up.
>>7433
most people in this hypothetical big girl's life are gonna be telling her this same shit dude. i don't think it's necessary for there to be yet another person in her life pressuring her like that. i'm not sure if it's ever a boyfriend's duty to pressure his girlfriend into becoming some kind of peak model of fitness and health. you're not going to enjoy your actual time with her when you're constantly ruminating over what she could be anyway so what's the point

it gets different and more morally weird as far as feeders go. but just for a regular FA like myself, i still don't feel the need to psychically castrate myself like this
>>7434

Agreed.

In the case of my SO, she'd been pressured and shamed by family to lose weight for years to no effect. If anything, the stress caused her to put on more weight. When we started dating, she actually had better luck losing weight than in the years before we were dating, because it was a no pressure situation: at 295 pounds, she'd have to have lost over 100 pounds for me to be concerned about attraction, and if she gained the weight back it was no pressure either.

She wound up losing about 50 pounds, then putting back on 30, but is still lighter than when we started dating. We also have a happy relationship and go to the gym regularly, so I'm pretty sure I've been good for her health, even if she's naturally lazy and enjoys food.
>>7437
Why tf so you say SO instead of gf/fiancee/wife are you just trying to be politically correct? It is so irritating
>>7443
use a text filter addon or something if it triggers you SO much
It's not a fetish. A fetish is defined as being attracted to a non-living object or a nongenital body part. Being attracted to women with a certain body type is not a fetish, it's a preference. It could be argued that being turned on by feeding or stuffing or tight clothes is a fetish, but then again those things are tied in with the body type preference and are not attractions in and of themselves.

As long as you are not forcing or manipulating your partner into doing something they are not comfortable with doing, there's nothing wrong with you, at least in the moral sense. Some people might consider it "wrong" because it's unusual but you would be surprised just how many people have sexual quirks that would be considered unusual. Pretty much every girl I've discussed sex with, fat or skinny, enjoys something that people might consider to be "wrong" or "weird". I have never really discussed sex with men but I'm sure the same thing applies to most of us as well.

Personally I've never cared about fitting in with other people and trying to be a "normal" person, and I've never been ashamed of my sexual preferences or wished they were different. I have never told any girl I've been with what to do with her body or tried to manipulate her into pleasing me sexually, so I have nothing to feel guilty about. And as for the people who do do these things, I don't think the behavior stems from liking fat women, it stems from selfishness and lack of respect for women in general.

Currently my girlfriend is trying to lose weight because of joint pain and not wanting to be out of breath from walking or climbing stairs and things like that, and I fully support her decision and I'm not bothered by it. She worries that I won't be attracted to her if she stops being fat but I always assure her that it's not the case. It's not like porn - if you're with a person for a long time and you genuinely love them, it goes beyond being physical and you will be sexually attracted to them no matter what they look like.

TL;DR There's nothing wrong with you, respect her decisions and don't be an asshole and you won't have anything to feel guilty about.
>>7589
>> if you're with a person for a long time and you genuinely love them, it goes beyond being physical and you will be sexually attracted to them no matter what they look like.

It varies between people, I'm not attracted to my wife when she weights less than 120kg.
I've been there.
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>>7589
>>7669

>if you're with a person for a long time and you genuinely love them, it goes beyond being physical and you will be sexually attracted to them no matter what they look like.

This may be true for SOME people, but as a blanket statement about human sexuality, it's at best a polite white lie. People are turned on by what they're turned on by. The heart wants what it wants, the dick and the pussy want what they want, and sometimes the best you can do is try and find a workable compromise. Some people can change that through an effort of will, but many people can't -- it's like telling a depressed person "just cheer up!"

I grew up with the Dan Savage sex advice columns where he made it all seem easy ("if you're honest and communicative with your partner and are willing to try new things, you can have a satisfying sex life no matter how extreme your or their kinks are"), but in real life, it can be a real strain on a relationship. This isn't just the case for horny guys, either. Some women have equally extreme fantasies that put a brake on their ability to connect sexually with their partner.

Some of y'all need some remedial Wittgenstein. "Is it a fetish or a preference?" is one of those endless terminological pseudo-arguments where the actual answer is "it depends on what you mean by fetish and what you mean by preference." I understand why people (especially women) get upset with the term "fetish," because it carries connotations of being dehumanized and objectified. But "preference" has always seemed like a weasel word to me.

I have a "preference" for hamburgers over hot dogs. I'd rather have the hamburger, but I'll eat a hot dog if that's all that's left at the barbecue. But I don't have a "preference" for fat women, I have an exclusive desire. My dick doesn't get hard for anyone under 250 lbs. -- period, full stop, do not pass go -- and anything under 350 is iffy. If you'd rather I not call that a "fetish," fine, I get it, fetish is a harsh word. But pretending it's a "preference" in the same way that some guys prefer blondes to brunettes or short girls to tall girls seems like a dishonest way of pretending that my desire isn't as specific and exclusive as it actually is.

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